who gets more Props/least hate from you, Victor Ortiz or Devon Alexander.......

[johncods]

The child is not necessarily always the father of the man. They are both kids. Easy to be weak when you're a kid. Ask the same question 5 years from now when they have both grown up a little bit.

Nah man it's actually worse watching them quit this young. I mean they're supposed to be very eager and hungry to go to the next level. I don't see the heart in both of them to reach the top.

[deanrw]

I am going to have to correct you. Victor Ortiz did make up excuses. He said he broke his left hand in the fight against Marcos Maidana. In his other loss to Lamont Peterson . He said that his hands were double wrapped. Victor Ortiz also, for whatever reason believes he did enough to deserve the decision.

Excuses are also part of the game. Fighters are conditioned over time to truly believe they are the best in the world. When they lose, they will search for anything that to them, can explain why they lost. It does not have to make sense to you or me. They need it for themselves. It is a natural part of rebuilding confidence. Every fighter on the planet, hell every person on the planet, will naturally search for a reason on why something did not go as expected.

[deanrw]

Nah man it's actually worse watching them quit this young. I mean they're supposed to be very eager and hungry to go to the next level. I don't see the heart in both of them to reach the top.

Remember when Manny got cut against Morales? Did you not see his letdown? His fire left him that night. Did he bounce back the next time? he sure did. Never judge a fighter for having a mentally bad night. Getting a bad cut can cause a fighter to lose it mentally, and then unravel their entire night.

The next time they get cut or hurt will determine where they will end up. Most overcome it the next time around.

[AntDawg]

Remember when Manny got cut against Morales? Did you not see his letdown? His fire left him that night. Did he bounce back the next time? he sure did. Never judge a fighter for having a mentally bad night. Getting a bad cut can cause a fighter to lose it mentally, and then unravel their entire night.

The next time they get cut or hurt will determine where they will end up. Most overcome it the next time around.

That was a great fight with Morales and Pacquiao. Pacquiao showed some heart in that fight. I give Ortiz more props since he seemed to be at his limit while Alexander just quit out the blue..... I mean he straight up pulled a Zab Judah lol.

[johncods]

Remember when Manny got cut against Morales? Did you not see his letdown? His fire left him that night. Did he bounce back the next time? he sure did. Never judge a fighter for having a mentally bad night. Getting a bad cut can cause a fighter to lose it mentally, and then unravel their entire night.

The next time they get cut or hurt will determine where they will end up. Most overcome it the next time around.

Ummm Pac actually continued and went to war for 7 more rounds!!! That's what ortiz and alexander were supposed to do as young fighters. And Ortiz has not been the same after the maidana fight. Im pretty sure everybody sees that.

We will see what happens with alexander. TBH I don't see it in him either.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Lots of great fighters have quit. Boxing isn't easy.

So are ya saying I should not be disappointed in these fighters??Cause I'm pretty sure they were disappointed in themselfs..

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

The child is not necessarily always the father of the man. They are both kids. Easy to be weak when you're a kid. Ask the same question 5 years from now when they have both grown up a little bit.

Co-Signed. They are both kids. I'm sure with more fights and years of experiance their attitude in the ring will change and mature.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Lots of great fighters have quit. Boxing isn't easy.

So are ya saying I should not be disappointed in these fighters??Cause I'm pretty sure they were disappointed in themselfs..

[johncods]

Co-Signed. They are both kids. I'm sure with more fights and years of experiance their attitude in the ring will change and mature.

Ortiz already changed.... for the worst. He fights more tentatively.

[Pin Galarga]

I think they should settle this issue by fighting each other. The 1st to quit been the weiner.