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  • figzuki
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sweet Jesus
    Lower weight classes are really dumb. You have some guys that are just too big for the weight class they are in. Donaire at 118 and Segura at 108 are two glaring examples.
    yea its pretty ridiculous.... even worse is hugo cazares...

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    • Sweet Jesus
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      #12
      Originally posted by richarddam
      this is almost a slamdunk for segura, i can't see how calderon can avenge his defeat vs. segura, i just don't know what's in the mind of calderon, segura is a beast in his division. i just want calderon to retire after this fight.
      He can be outboxed. Canchilla, a crude brawler, outboxed him in their first fight. Calderon would be able to outbox Segura too, unfortunately he is a 36 year old 108 lber. that is fighting a guy that belongs 2-3 weight classes up while Calderon probably belongs at minimumweight.

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      • figzuki
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        #13
        Originally posted by Sweet Jesus
        He can be outboxed. Canchilla, a crude brawler, outboxed him in their first fight. Calderon would be able to outbox Segura too, unfortunately he is a 36 year old 108 lber. that is fighting a guy that belongs 2-3 weight classes up while Calderon probably belongs at minimumweight.
        can't agree more....

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        • Mr. Fantastic
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          #14
          Originally posted by figzuki
          yea its pretty ridiculous.... even worse is hugo cazares...
          Funny how that doesn't seem to count for Lopez being big at his weight as well. Or Negron when he was at CW. Or Cintron at WW.

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          • figzuki
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            #15
            Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
            Funny how that doesn't seem to count for Lopez being big at his weight as well. Or Negron when he was at CW. Or Cintron at WW.
            everytime u make a post it makes me scratch my head...

            Yes Negron was super towering at CW, I wasn't knocking on Mexicans by the way just to let u know....

            Yea cintron was a bit big at WW, but Lopez being so much bigger than everyone else? i don't know about that homeboy.....

            Now segura struggle to make 108 and I can't mention him, isn't Cazares fighting at 118 now? see those are towering guys over Calderon height and body mass wise, so don't be quick and jump to the rescue fool, what u should've added also was Margarito at WW too if u wanna play that game...

            but thats not what I was getting at bro.... it just so happens that Segura is twice as big as Ivan, and Cazares even worse, i never knocked those 2 fighters bro....

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              #16
              Calderonwill outbox segura the only problem I got is the judges they can rob calderon if he puts a clinic

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              • onechance87
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                #17
                weight can affect segura in the rematch.

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                • Shadows
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                  #18
                  Segura came with a really good plan last time and I doubt Calderon will have certain things going for him in the rematch, like ring size.

                  Unless the weight really bothers Segura and/or Calderon starts fast and it goes to the cards early for a TD, I don't think Calderon can win this.

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                  • Mr. Fantastic
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by figzuki
                    everytime u make a post it makes me scratch my head...

                    Yes Negron was super towering at CW, I wasn't knocking on Mexicans by the way just to let u know....

                    Yea cintron was a bit big at WW, but Lopez being so much bigger than everyone else? i don't know about that homeboy.....

                    Now segura struggle to make 108 and I can't mention him, isn't Cazares fighting at 118 now? see those are towering guys over Calderon height and body mass wise, so don't be quick and jump to the rescue fool, what u should've added also was Margarito at WW too if u wanna play that game...

                    but thats not what I was getting at bro.... it just so happens that Segura is twice as big as Ivan, and Cazares even worse, i never knocked those 2 fighters bro....
                    He's not twice as big. I've you compare Ivan to the other guys at his weight, he's smaller than them too. It's not about the height and size. If you can make weight, you can. That's why I never gave PWs any crap about that.

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                    • figzuki
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                      He's not twice as big. I've you compare Ivan to the other guys at his weight, he's smaller than them too. It's not about the height and size. If you can make weight, you can. That's why I never gave PWs any crap about that.
                      well maybe not twice as big bro, but u know what i meant....

                      Ivan is smaller then the rest of the guys, but who is bigger then Segura, u see what I'm saying?

                      I agree that if they make weight they fight, but if you struggle to make that weight, why try?

                      I think these big fighters use that to their advantage, like PW called the most avoided fighter, umm hello hes like 6'2 with a train of a reach at 147 and 154 u know, so thats what kills me about that...

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