Points on why Manny NEVER has plans to fight Floyd let alone anyone on a win streak.

[littlemac]

Again, proven PED user.

Roach has history of his fighters testing positive for steroids. Floyd like Roach, don't feel current testing methods to be solid. Floyd has the right to suspect and want to insure that Pac is clean considering Roach history with his fighters testing positive

wait, you are seriously saying that "anytime, anywhere" is your basis that they agreed to the test? LOL! Dude, I did not say he didn't know the terms. Operative phrase is "onset". Of course they knew about the terms, how can they reject it if they didn't know? What I am trying to say is it was rejected when it was proposed. Roach and I are actually on the same page, you just have to understand what I am saying. No offense to you too. :P

He said "anytime, anywhere, anyplace". What does that mean. Does that mean 24 days before the fight. Again Roach said they had agreed to FLOYDS TESTING TERMS.

He did mention about feeling weak, go to one day before the fight and look it up. He didn't like it at all. Gloves was the biggest issue I guess, but I'm surprised you don't know all the issues about that loss. It makes future arguments more solid.

Funny he didnt mentioned it right after his fight at the post fight interview.

[AIR_KENG]

then why use superstitious when pertaining to cheating on his wife and family? wrong context. and we're talking about boxing. lol.......................

Manny loses more blood in a fight. Manny can then go out right after the fight and perform a concert and not feel "weakend" by his blood loss from the fight. Manny is full of it.

I repeat, is the stamina needed to engage in competitive boxing even comparable to the stamina needed to hold a "victory" concert?

Booted. Tired of the act. NO-sley to even older Mosely.
I repeat, 'nuff said.

why has it taken Manny over a year to submit to random OST when he could do it on his own and prove to everyone he's "clean" and have all the time in the world to recover? Oh that's right. Manny knows he'll need to juice it up during "training" and that's when they'll want testing to catch him. Manny knows Mosely's cheated before why doesn't he request stricter testing for both of them? Mosely's passed the comissions testing.

all the time in the world to recover? he has been in two fights since negotiations fell and took the same tests as everybody else, not mention he looked fantastic as he always is.

Sure it is.

Need to research, hence the short post.

[trainhard_187]

1) Manny states he will "pray for Floyd he sorts out his legal problems and can return to the ring so people can see him fight. Yet Mayweathers right in his face and no mention from Manny on his promise of taking full random OST, anytime, anyplace to fight Floyd or even a statement that he hopes Floyd comes back and they fight right away. Remember. Manny's the SAME Manny who is "praying" for Floyd to resolve ALL his legal issues yet FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST Floyd for "hurtful accusations". <----Hilarious.

I wonder if "resolving" Floyd's 'legal issues' include hopefully dropping his request for full random OST for the Congroidsman?

2) This is the same Manny who "fights everybody" yet "wins" a forced vacated 8th title from in house banned Cheato then after winning it in a weight class Sergio Martinez has fought in IMMEDIATELY becomes "too small" especially after Sergio OPENLY challenges an ACTIVE Pac and what does PAc do? He "congratulates" him and runs to fight even older man Mosely. <----Even more hilarious!

3) Team Pac states Arum gives Manny a choice of fighters and the ultimate decision and choice in the final "pick" is done by MANNY. In a recent interview we've all seen Manny states his PROMOTER picked Shane. Which is it? Who finally picked Shane for Manny?? Either Bob or Manny KNEW Shane was the weakest link of the "choices" and or BOTH wanted him at the point he's at ALL along.


4) Any fighter who stands a chance at beating Pac isn't "good enough' to fight Pac even though one has ALREADY proven himself against him, and only become "good enough" if they sign to Top Rank for that in house cash cow Bobfather's control. Marquez, Bradley.

Those facts prove Pac NEVER intended to fight Floyd and Arum is milking his fraudulent media made hype job cash cow off of Floyd's name by signing him to fight any fighter with a name on their way out while using the "Mayweather name" to promote Manny's next fight and "trying in vain" to make Mayweather appear "scared". Arum will only toss Pac to Floyd once he's made as much money off Pac's "entertainment" as he can. Manny WON'T fight ANYONE with a remote chance at beating him as it would RUIN any leverage in negotiations with Floyd. Pac and Floyd fans know it. It's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS by now.

Manny can get hand fed all the "names" he wants with all leverage, requests, conditions they come in to fight him at etc. for their biggest payday....But that isn't doing Manny ANY favors in getting him ready and testing himself for his future CASH OUT when he has to face Floyd in the ring. His fraudulent "legacy", "titles", fans, media, belts, and names on his resume aren't going to help him AT ALL when he's across for Mayweather in the ring. LIKE IT OR NOT KIDS.

[littlemac]

then why use superstitious when pertaining to cheating on his wife and family? wrong context. and we're talking about boxing. lol.......................

Its not wrong context because you can consider its bad karma to cheat there for karma is a superstitious believe lol.......Dang man your too easy.

[AIR_KENG]

I repeat, is the stamina needed to engage in competitive boxing even comparable to the stamina needed to hold a "victory" concert?

Booted. Tired of the act. NO-sley to even older Mosely.
I repeat, 'nuff said.


all the time in the world to recover? he has been in two fights since negotiations fell and took the same tests as everybody else, not mention he looked fantastic as he always is.


Need to research, hence the short post.

Roach has history of his fighters testing positive for steroids. Floyd like Roach, don't feel current testing methods to be solid. Floyd has the right to suspect and want to insure that Pac is clean considering Roach history with his fighters testing positive

What system was used to catch those that used steroids? USADA OST? I don't think so. I beg to disagree that Floyd has the right to suspect in this instance. The other fighters don't have nothing to do with the boxer in question.

He said "anytime, anywhere, anyplace". What does that mean. Does that mean 24 days before the fight. Again Roach said they had agreed to FLOYDS TESTING TERMS.

That does not pertain to specific details of a fight. And I still can't believe you take that phrase as official agreement. Again, if Roach agreed to Floyd's testing terms, WHERE IS FLOYD? If that is the case, he should be jumping for joy and declaring to the world that what he wanted has been met, right?

Funny he didnt mentioned it right after his fight at the post fight interview.

Oh yeah I almost forgot. Post fight interview is everything in boxing.

[AIR_KENG]

Its not wrong context because you can consider its bad karma to cheat there for karma is a superstitious believe lol.......Dang man your too easy.

still wrong context. superstitious belief does not apply to everything. and yet again, we're talking about boxing. lol.......................

[littlemac]

still wrong context. superstitious belief does not apply to everything. and yet again, we're talking about boxing. lol.......................

It depends of the point of view what you believe what karma and what is superstitious unless of course you claim to be the all surpreme lol......I was refering it into as of a persons character. Its a good chance a person will act according by his character consistantly in different situation relating like if someone would to cheat on his wife. What would prevent him from cheating on a test lol............ Dang man you need things put together for you. How about using some imagination. You use it so well by imagining Manny had no idea about OST and what Roach meant when he said he had agreed to FLoyds testing lol...............

[littlemac]

still wrong context. superstitious belief does not apply to everything. and yet again, we're talking about boxing. lol.......................

BTW you brought up the discussion with me about Superstitious and karma. I wasn't talking about that with you. If you don't want to talk about it why bring it up with me lol.............

[tibbar]

1) Manny states he will "pray for Floyd he sorts out his legal problems and can return to the ring so people can see him fight. Yet Mayweathers right in his face and no mention from Manny on his promise of taking full random OST, anytime, anyplace to fight Floyd or even a statement that he hopes Floyd comes back and they fight right away. Remember. Manny's the SAME Manny who is "praying" for Floyd to resolve ALL his legal issues yet FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST Floyd for "hurtful accusations". <----Hilarious.

I wonder if "resolving" Floyd's 'legal issues' include hopefully dropping his request for full random OST for the Congroidsman?

2) This is the same Manny who "fights everybody" yet "wins" a forced vacated 8th title from in house banned Cheato then after winning it in a weight class Sergio Martinez has fought in IMMEDIATELY becomes "too small" especially after Sergio OPENLY challenges an ACTIVE Pac and what does PAc do? He "congratulates" him and runs to fight even older man Mosely. <----Even more hilarious!

3) Team Pac states Arum gives Manny a choice of fighters and the ultimate decision and choice in the final "pick" is done by MANNY. In a recent interview we've all seen Manny states his PROMOTER picked Shane. Which is it? Who finally picked Shane for Manny?? Either Bob or Manny KNEW Shane was the weakest link of the "choices" and or BOTH wanted him at the point he's at ALL along.


4) Any fighter who stands a chance at beating Pac isn't "good enough' to fight Pac even though one has ALREADY proven himself against him, and only become "good enough" if they sign to Top Rank for that in house cash cow Bobfather's control. Marquez, Bradley.

Those facts prove Pac NEVER intended to fight Floyd and Arum is milking his fraudulent media made hype job cash cow off of Floyd's name by signing him to fight any fighter with a name on their way out while using the "Mayweather name" to promote Manny's next fight and "trying in vain" to make Mayweather appear "scared". Arum will only toss Pac to Floyd once he's made as much money off Pac's "entertainment" as he can. Manny WON'T fight ANYONE with a remote chance at beating him as it would RUIN any leverage in negotiations with Floyd. Pac and Floyd fans know it. It's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS by now.

Manny can get hand fed all the "names" he wants with all leverage, requests, conditions they come in to fight him at etc. for their biggest payday....But that isn't doing Manny ANY favors in getting him ready and testing himself for his future CASH OUT when he has to face Floyd in the ring. His fraudulent "legacy", "titles", fans, media, belts, and names on his resume aren't going to help him AT ALL when he's across for Mayweather in the ring. LIKE IT OR NOT KIDS.

[littlemac]

What system was used to catch those that used steroids? USADA OST? I don't think so. I beg to disagree that Floyd has the right to suspect in this instance. The other fighters don't have nothing to do with the boxer in question.

It does has something to do with it when a boxer is being train by a trainer who has a history of steroids.


That does not pertain to specific details of a fight. And I still can't believe you take that phrase as official agreement. Again, if Roach agreed to Floyd's testing terms, WHERE IS FLOYD? If that is the case, he should be jumping for joy and declaring to the world that what he wanted has been met, right?

Really so you know all the details of what Roach meant right even before Pac did lol......Maybe you should have called Pac and give him a heads up.lol
FLOYD WAS AT THE TABLE WITH THE CONTRACT THAT WHERE HE WAS, AM NOT SURE ABOUT JUMPING FOR JOY BUT HE WAS THERE WITH A PEN.



Oh yeah I almost forgot. Post fight interview is everything in boxing.[/QUOTE]

So you think a fighters excuse is less relevant right after a fight then a day later. I would think you would comment at the momment you just fought what had happenend. Manny said he didn't feel weak or that Morales felt strong. It was all about the rayes lol.....But you don't think that was relevant because you think its more relevant when days had passed by he would remember it better then right after the fight...