D.Rafael: "Floyd would TOY with Tito Trinidad and he would beat JCC as well"

[americanbot]

Floys also got hit a good amount of times at 135. JCC is no Phillip Ndou man nor is he no Arturo Gatti.

But, I will not even debate this issue with your agenda having ass anyways.

I'm just telling it like it B I is pal. a 135 or 140 mayweather would definitely box circles around chavez....you see a different out come. I don't.

[_I Am_]

Tito was easy to outbox early but the guys he fought would fade late.... They would get hit and fade....

Floyd has the speed, the defense, and the ENDURANCE to box Tito's ears off for 12 rounds.....

If Hopkins (who clearly doesnt have the boxing game that Floyd has) could make Tito look like an amateur and KO him, then Floyd wins by wide UD....

Oscar whooped Tito's ass up, down, and side to side...... He ran late and GAVE Tito that fight.... There is a reason why Tito never fought Oscar again, and thats because he knew he was given a gift the first time around....

[_I Am_]

I'm just telling it like it B I is pal. a 135 or 140 mayweather would definitely box circles around chavez....you see a different out come. I don't.

Dont bother with JHoe, he is a stuck up, stubborn piece of ****. If ANYBODY doesnt agree with him he talks crap...... And that is being nice...

Think thats bad? You should check out his twitter and see how he thinks he is big **** when talking to these promoters and managers.... You would think he was somebody by reading his twitter, when in actuality, he is just an over the top fanboy.....

[Walt Liquor]

No. People who are honest know Floyd is better than Whitaker.

too bad we'd never know because floyd has so few big wins.

i got pea over floyd though, for sure

[RubenSonny]

Trinidad's style gave Pernell a much harder time than people thought.

Chavez loses to Mayweather in a similar way he lost to Whitaker which was far from a "destruction'.....lol

The bolded is idiotic, Whitaker hadn't fought for over a year, was extremely badly faded and near shot, and had serious ******* problems. That fight has nothing to do with how well Mayweather would fair against Tito.

As for the rest your right it wasn't a "destruction" and I don't recall anyone referring to that but it was certainly a thorough schooling.

Yeah I don't think he's much of a fan on fruit.

Pernell scored a BS knock down vs DLH which was actually a trip but Trinidad knocked Pernell down twice.

Not how I remember, Oscar thought he could go Southpaw against Pea but was not very good and had crap balance and a solid blow from Pea made him legitimately touch the canvas.

He was also a better in-fighter

You've shown expert insight in this thread one thing I will say is that Chavez took a fair amount of time to iniate on the inside at WW, he simply wasn't able to get started as quickly at the lower weights with his generally committed brand of in-fighting. I think it would bode very well for Mayweather, as he likes to mix it up stepping inside, throwing a threw blows and stepping to outside, using the jab to close the distance, this being the same tactics Whitaker employed I think Floyd could do it too, though slightly bit less effectively.

[Spray_resistant]

Chavez was just great, I could see him dropping many early rounds to Floyd but if he could cut the ring off and stay close I could see him busting Floyd up pretty bad starting in the mid rounds and since we haven't seen him take any really beatings at all who knows how he will respond to that.

He probably beats Tito who was a basic classical style boxer but 1 punch from Tito against any WW could not just change but end a fight.

[Shabba Rank$]

Dont bother with JHoe, he is a stuck up, stubborn piece of ****. If ANYBODY doesnt agree with him he talks crap...... And that is being nice...

Think thats bad? You should check out his twitter and see how he thinks he is big **** when talking to these promoters and managers.... You would think he was somebody by reading his twitter, when in actuality, he is just an over the top fanboy.....

Shots fired!!!!

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I think Mayweather fares better at WW against Trinidad than he does against Chavez at LW.

Despite the natural size disadvantage, I think Mayweather uses his speed, boxing skills, ring IQ, and much better footwork to win a decision over Trinidad. Mayweather would have to be very careful due to Trinidad's power, he wasn't just a left hook guy, but had a very good straight right hand too. But Mayweather was much better with angles, taking away an opponent's best weapon, and Tito was also vulnerable to a straight right hand. Oscar, known as a left-hand happy fighter, was hitting him with frequency with the straight right. The straight right is Floyd's best punch, and I think he'd get this punch through.

Chavez wasn't as big or powerful as Trinidad, but was much better at cutting off the ring than Trinidad. He was also a better in-fighter (Tito was more mid-range) and better at slipping shots. Simply put, Chavez was a better fighter than Trinidad.

That is right, Whitaker fought DLH before, Trinidad so I was wrong. I love how the internet nerds get so much pleasure out of it.

I think you have a good analogy but there was something about Trinidad that was tough for fighters to figure out. He wasn't the best boxer, and of course he had great power but he was a tough puzzle to figure out.

He always had better fights against slick boxers and you wouldn't expect that from his style.

I do think Mayweather beats both and it goes without saying that Chavez was better than Tito.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

The bolded is idiotic, Whitaker hadn't fought for over a year, was extremely badly faded and near shot, and had serious ******* problems. That fight has nothing to do with how well Mayweather would fair against Tito.

As for the rest your right it wasn't a "destruction" and I don't recall anyone referring to that but it was certainly a thorough schooling.



Not how I remember, Oscar thought he could go Southpaw against Pea but was not very good and had crap balance and a solid blow from Pea made him legitimately touch the canvas.

It's idiotic? Really because I forgot that Trinidad fought Whitaker AFTER DLH.....good lord relax.

Wazza quote:

Floyd would destroy Chavez, Whitaker style.

Don't know much about Trinidad, so I can't give my views on that one

Actually if you watch that fight closely, Oscar had some of his best exchanges from the south paw stance and the knock down was a CLEAR trip. You can see it in the replay even though Roy Jones commentated it was a knock down. He did land a shot but Oscar turned and his left foo got caught up and he touched his glove to the canvas.

Reason Oscar had so much trouble with Pernel (taking in Pernel was younger as you stated) he respected Pernell too much, he chose to box him and beat him that was and didn't press the fight as much as I thought he would. Even Larry Merchant who I rarely agree with stated "Why isn't Oscar more aggressive" he was right.

[jrosales13]

Dont bother with JHoe, he is a stuck up, stubborn piece of ****. If ANYBODY doesnt agree with him he talks crap...... And that is being nice...

Think thats bad? You should check out his twitter and see how he thinks he is big **** when talking to these promoters and managers.... You would think he was somebody by reading his twitter, when in actuality, he is just an over the top fanboy.....

You follow me on twitter?

Stalker much?