Originally posted by M.I.C.
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Will Mayweather now fight at 154lbs to avoid Pacquiao?
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Last edited by iNDOLiFER; 02-09-2011, 12:57 PM.
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Originally posted by iNDOLiFER View Postyou're right!! i dont know jack ***** of what im talking about because to u im just a causal fan... so i'll leave the real facts to professional boxing experts like u who post on NSB.. if u read my post correctly u would see that i was being sarcasm as to no peds can make a person a better fighter.
Now I don't think it can make an ordinary fighter extraordinary. I don't think you can be a journeyman and take PED's and become a HOF'er...It doesn't work that way. I don't think you can a borderline HOF'er and take PED's and become an ATG.
But, of course it makes you better in some capacity. That is why people take them. If not then why take them?
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Originally posted by Chopper417 View PostNot really sure what you point is here? That Floyd is substantially heavier on fight night that he is at the weigh in? Historically that is completely innacurate but i still don't see what your point is. Even when Manny was fighting at 130 he was around 144 on fight night. What's your point?
The point being a fight at 154lbs will favour Floyd because he is naturarlly around 10lbs heavier than Manny.
Floyd will fight at 154lbs and try and get Manny to fight him there claiming he can't make 147lbs anymore.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostNow that Manny has said he will vacate his light-middleweight title and effectively said that he won't fight at light-middle again, would Floyd now campaign at light-middle so the fight with Pacquiao can never happen?
Pacquiao gave up 17lbs of weight in the ring against Margarito and this was at a catchweight. Giving away that much weight is dangerous risk to Pacquiao's health.
Manny is effectively a lightweight still, he can still make that weight, he planning to go for Berto's title or maybe go back down to light-welter or even lightweight for a title.
Mayweather knows Pacquiao won't compete at light-middle anymore so Mayweather can easily avoid Pacquiao by competing at light-middle now.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostThe point being a fight at 154lbs will favour Floyd because he is naturarlly around 10lbs heavier than Manny.
Floyd will fight at 154lbs and try and get Manny to fight him there claiming he can't make 147lbs anymore.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostCome on, how can you not see Floyd's excuses.
Floyd can't work with Bob Arum.
Floyd wants a bigger cut.
Floyd wants blood tests
Floyd want his own blood tests.
The blood tests Floyd wanted before is of the table.
Floyd was want to spend time with the Foundation and take a year or two off.
Floyd wants to spend time with his family.
Uncle Roger has a court case pending.
Floyd has a court case pending
Floyd is loyal to HBO, ruling out fighting on Showtime.
Now will we hear that Floyd intends to campaign at 154lbs, if he does are you telling me you can't see a pattern here.
Lets see how it plays but I won't be surprised in the slightest if this happens.
1.) I dont see this as an excuse.... The man was basically trying to pay floyd pennies for a fight with hatton, cotto etc. To put it into perspective, Arum stated that no one wanted to see Delahoya and floyd fight, and that mayweather was asking for too much money... When as of right now that is the highest grossing fight of all time. Shane will probably recieve more fighting manny then floyd owuld have fighting cotto.. understand?? everyone knows that FLOYD AND ARUM are not the best of friends though that will change to make this fight.
2.) Floyd did want a bigger cut, but wasnt this all rectified when both parties decided on 50/50??? Didnt manny want this and did not floyd agree to this??? (FLOYD AGREED TO EVERY REQUEST MANNY, really roach MADE) Where the hell have you been, so far your first two points are moot.
3.) This was the only request Floyd made, and he agreed to x4 request by manny... In yoru rebuttal please enlighten us to what those x4 things were... I want to see if you intentionally block out this stuff.
4.) Floyd wants blood tests with no windows to allow manny to cheat as he suspects manny for cheating... You are so biased you tried to make it like your 3rd point and fourth point werent the same....Come on dude get real....
5.) Lets see floyd was lenient with manny, manny didnt want the test, now all of a sudden `14 days is enough time seeing that Manny knows Floyd too that deal off the table.. In all honesty, if anyones ducking then its PAC... What made him change his mind from 24 days to agreeing with Floyds old deal of 14 days?? Floyd told the world, that he was pissed and that all deals were removed... he wanted full testing which makes sense anyway....Remember what the mediator stated.....DONT BE A TOOL JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS AND NOT AT YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTER.
6.) Come on dude are you reaching much????????lol foundation seriously??????
7.) THIS IS EASILY UNDERSTOOD. BEING ONE OF THE RICHEST MEN IN BOXING IS NOTHING IF YOU never have time for your children, imagine working out for hours at your gym, only to come home and have the little ones ask you to play UNO.....Hell my job isnt as physically demanding as a boxer and I am tired when my nephews come over to see me and want to play "TROUBLE" LOL...
Alot of people gave shane flack for saying he wanted a vacation withhis family when asked if he would face floyd next..... I didnt because whether hes lying or not, the excuse given is a very understandable excuse.... FAMILY IS IMPORTANT. This isnt slavery, the man should be allowed to spend time with his family and also have them enjoy life with the man of the house....ONLY A ****** WOULD CALL THIS DUCKING...
7.) Lets see his trainer is not focused, may be going to jail, has a rocky history with his father who trains as well, You really dont wanna switch up the winning team for the biggest fight of yoru life now do ya??
Lets say Roach died a month before the fight...... I could not blame pac for rescheduling to a later date... This is logical....Floyd trusts his uncle.... thats why hes allowed to train him...But Roger has beat them charges so this point is useless as well.
8.) Yeah because we all know that with your life on the line, and people accusing you in the media of doing stuff even though the person saying this has lied under oath before.....
Go back and watch the movie "KICKBOXER" with vandamme, and watch what the chick tells vandammes friend.. She didnt tell vandamme she was ****d because his mind had to be clear for the fight...
Dont be a "SLOTH" for me there are no *******s, or *****s, you are classified as "SLOTHS" from the goonies talking this crazy ****.
9.) Every fight floyd has, he thanks HBO, AND EVEN BRAGS ABOUT BEING A TOP HBO FIGHTER, DONT ACT LIKE HE JUST STARTED DOING THIS NOW.....
10.)THIS IS THE **** YOU ARE SAYING, AND IF MANNY DOESNT TAKE THE TEST, I WOULD NOT BE MAD IF HE FOUGHT SERGIO OR SOMEONE ELSE AT 154....IF THE BEST CHALLENGE WONT GIVE IN TO YOUR X1 DEMAND THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DO YOURSELF, THEN I SAY **** EM....
TO show you how biased people are, look at the poll, people know damn well this fight is gonna be made, but you can pretty much guess who is saying Floyd will run to 154.. yeah run to 154 where people hit harder to avoid a man smaller than you..lolLast edited by QADASHBANYAH; 02-09-2011, 01:09 PM.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostThe point being a fight at 154lbs will favour Floyd because he is naturarlly around 10lbs heavier than Manny.
Floyd will fight at 154lbs and try and get Manny to fight him there claiming he can't make 147lbs anymore.
And, if that is the case then how is avoiding Pac by going to a weight-class that he can actually make and be comfortable in?
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Originally posted by Chopper417 View PostWell if Floyd does come out and say he can no longer make 147 then I will agree with you because that would be complete garbage. I guess we'll see.
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