Whats Mike Tyson's best win?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

That common knowledge is a theory, and its not that they faked anything, its that they didn't push them selves far enough because they believed they would lose anyway. The whole theory was created by haters that want to discredit Tyson for his racist comments and actions after prison.

sure buddy. whatever you say. Who can argue the "they are just being haterz" defense?

All i know is that whenever tyson faced a great prime heavyweight he folded.

I remember vividly the prime undefeated run of iron mike because of his delusional fan base. Mike was steady knocking out bums & his delusional ass fan base was ready to crown mike p4p 1# atg.

You must be one of them.

[jrosales13]

I'm starting to think you're an idiot and seriously lack reading comprehension.

that's your opinion and its a poor one.




Better version of Judah? Which one? The one that lost to Spinks or the one that knocked Spinks out? Or the one that lost to Kostya? Kinda hard to peg exactly where Judah stands most of the time.

Yes a better fresher not worn out version. Nobody is saying Judah is great here bro. Just saying he was fresher with the likes of Baldomir and Judah. Cotto gave him a beating like no other fighter had previous. He was faded when he fought Clottey 2 years after Floyd and Baldo did.

Regarding Clottey/Baldomir, Baldomir "won" that fight on a technicality, which means he didn't really win it. I thought you'd figure that one out on your own though. Paper wins don't count as "real" wins.

Actually it means he really did win.

Floyds win over JMM? Really?

come on man. I thought you were a serious know it all poster.

We're comparing Floyd WW resume to Clottey WW resume right? If so...I'm comparing Floyd win over JMM to Clottey win over Corrales. I mean are they not comparable? Both were LW's moving up to WW in their first fight. So what is wrong with that comparison? I'm not even giving Floyd credit for that win really. I'm just saying is better than Clottey win over Corrales just because JMM had more in the tank than Corrales did who was completely shot at the time.

But, whatever....Floyd win over Hatton is better than Clottey win over Corrales. And, Corrales is Clottey 2nd best win in that weight-class.

Clottey dared to be great and fought ALMOST everyone, Fraud fought a career featherweight at WW while cheating on the scales and a 38 year old punch drunk Mosley.

So what that he dared to be great...It doesn't matter if he losses all the damn time. You gotta have one great win in there. And, he doesn't. If that is the case every journeyman should be considered an elite fighter.

Yes Floyd fought JMM at WW just like Clottey fought Corrales.

I'm not even counting Mosley cuz' the debate was for the past decade. But, OK...

You should revise your entire method cuz' this isn't working for me.

Really a shot Corrales is Clottey 2nd best win at WW....Nuff' said.

[Bastian Loc]

You must be in your 20's because you are ****ing clueless when it comes to a sport that involves one person. I'm not wasting my time on anyone that wasn't there to see this stuff happen like I was. Believe what you want from haters, I was there and know they are full of shiiit.

So being in your 20's doesn't count as being prime anymore?

When was he in his prime RossCA, when he was winning?

I guess when he started losing it marked the end of his prime huh?



Take the **** out of your mouth fag.

[Bastian Loc]

I'm starting to think you're an idiot and seriously lack reading comprehension.



Yes a better fresher not worn out version. Nobody is saying Judah is great here bro. Just saying he was fresher with the likes of Baldomir and Judah. Cotto gave him a beating like no other fighter had previous. He was faded when he fought Clottey 2 years after Floyd and Baldo did.

Kostya sparked him cold in 2 rounds. Did you forget about that or are you selectively choosing your Judah history. Baldomir gave him a good beating too but I guess you're like Floyd and in your eyes that loss doesn't count.

Fraud wouldn't fight Mosley with 5 losses, but he would fight Baldomir with 12 losses and a Judah coming off an embarrassing loss.

What does your book say about that "logic" huh Einstein?

Actually it means he really did win.

No, actually it doesn't mean that. Just like a paper champion doesn't really mean he's a REAL champion.

It just means he's a champion on paper. A fake, a fraud, a usurper.

Figure it out brotha.

We're comparing Floyd WW resume to Clottey WW resume right? If so...I'm comparing Floyd win over JMM to Clottey win over Corrales. I mean are they not comparable? Both were LW's moving up to WW in their first fight. So what is wrong with that comparison? I'm not even giving Floyd credit for that win really. I'm just saying is better than Clottey win over Corrales just because JMM had more in the tank than Corrales did who was completely shot at the time.

One guy was a real lighweight who had to squeeze into lighweight to make weight.

The other is a career featherweight who is a small lightweight that dominates on skill alone.

Figure out which is which and get back to me compadre.

But, whatever....Floyd win over Hatton is better than Clottey win over Corrales. And, Corrales is Clottey 2nd best win in that weight-class.

Corrales is a better fighter than Hatton. Clottey's win over Judah, Clottey's fight against Tony (who fraud ducked) Clottey's fight against Cotto (who Fraud ducked>>> Frauds "win" against a career JUNIOR WW who wasn't that good to begin with.

So what that he dared to be great...It doesn't matter if he losses all the damn time. You gotta have one great win in there. And, he doesn't. If that is the case every journeyman should be considered an elite fighter.

Clottey is no journeyman.

If the Cotto fight was anywhere but MSG he would've got the decision.

[jrosales13]

Kostya sparked him cold in 2 rounds. Did you forget about that or are you selectively choosing your Judah history. Baldomir gave him a good beating too but I guess you're like Floyd and in your eyes that loss doesn't count.

Fraud wouldn't fight Mosley with 5 losses, but he would fight Baldomir with 12 losses and a Judah coming off an embarrassing loss.

What does your book say about that "logic" huh Einstein?






No, actually it doesn't mean that. Just like a paper champion doesn't really mean he's a REAL champion.

It just means he's a champion on paper. A fake, a fraud, a usurper.

Figure it out brotha.



One guy was a real lighweight who had to squeeze into lighweight to make weight.

The other is a career featherweight who is a small lightweight that dominates on skill alone.

Figure out which is which and get back to me compadre.




Corrales is a better fighter than Hatton. Clottey's win over Judah, Clottey's fight against Tony (who fraud ducked) Clottey's fight against Cotto (who Fraud ducked>>> Frauds "win" against a career JUNIOR WW who wasn't that good to begin with.



Clottey is no journeyman.

If the Cotto fight was anywhere but MSG he would've got the decision.

Jack before I respond to this ****** post. Tell me what the debate is here?

Are we talking about how weak Floyd WW resume is? If so OK then the debate stops here because yes I agree is weak.

Or,

are we talking about how Floyd avoided certain WWS during his reign? If so, then the debate stops here. Again, yes I agree he did.

Or,

are we comparing Floyd and Clottey WW resume and accomplishments? If so, then I will answer this post and debate with you.

But, stop being all over the place and stop changing the goal post man.

[Bastian Loc]

Jack before I respond to this ****** post. Tell me what the debate is here?

Are we talking about how weak Floyd WW resume is? If so OK then the debate stops here because yes I agree is weak.

Or,

are we talking about how Floyd avoided certain WWS during his reign? If so, then yes I agree he did.

Or,

are we comparing Floyd and Clottey WW resume and accomplishment at WW? If so then I will answer this post and debate with you.

But, stop being all over the place and stop changing the goal post man.

i think we're talking about Mike Tyson's best win.

In which case the fact that we're talking about all this other shit means we really love boxing a whole lot for it to go so far off topic.

I consider this thread a win.

[jrosales13]

i think we're talking about Mike Tyson's best win.

In which case the fact that we're talking about all this other shit means we really love boxing a whole lot for it to go so far off topic.

I consider this thread a win.

, fair enough.

[RIZO24]

, fair enough.

How dare anyone debate with JRosales on anything boxing!! This man is the NSB Boxing encyclopedia!! Do not get him started, his boxing knowledge will overwhelm you. You been warn!!!

[Pogue69]

Tyrell Biggs.

Taken in context, at the time, Tyson-Biggs was being billed as the new Ali-Frazier for the '80's. Many experts at the time were picking Biggs (although Tyson was favoured). Biggs was a talented gold-medallist with good skills, but Tyson was at his destructive best during that fight. Ruined Biggs' once-promising career in one merciless night.

People often overlook Biggs based on what happened to his career after theTyson fight, but I think that does a disservice to Tyson's performance that night.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Im pissed n confused. Why the *** are u ****s talkin bout Josh Clottey? Lulz