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  • Carpe Diem
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    #1901
    Originally posted by 2012
    I am certain Floyd will win via UD but I believe Cotto stands a puncher's chance because Floyd is 34 and doesn't have as much speed in his legs any more. He has become a stationairy fighter and that is his biggest weakness
    It's kinda sad too. Marquez at age 38 and Hopkins at age 47 still have better footwork than Floyd.

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      #1902
      Originally posted by Carpe Diem
      It's kinda sad too. Marquez at age 38 and Hopkins at age 47 still have better footwork than Floyd.
      Not sure if serious.

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        #1903
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Not sure if serious.
        Dead serious...

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          #1904
          Originally posted by Carpe Diem
          Dead serious...
          Hopkins and Marquez have better footwork than Mayweather currently?

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            #1905
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Hopkins and Marquez have better footwork than Mayweather currently?
            Yes. They constantly pivot/side stepping around the ring without resting on the ropes like Floyd has done. Marquez demonstrated the best form of lateral movement against Pacquiao.

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              #1906
              Originally posted by Carpe Diem
              Yes. They constantly pivot/side stepping around the ring without resting on the ropes like Floyd has done. Marquez demonstrated the best form of lateral movement against Pacquiao.
              Mayweather lays on the ropes because he wants to, not because he has to.

              I don't think any version of Marquez' footwork is better than any version of Mayweather's. It's clearly superior, IMO.

              As for Hopkins, prime for prime of course it's arguable. An almost 50 year old Hopkins? Not so much.

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                #1907
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Mayweather lays on the ropes because he wants to, not because he has to.

                I don't think any version of Marquez' footwork is better than any version of Mayweather's. It's clearly superior, IMO.

                As for Hopkins, prime for prime of course it's arguable. An almost 50 year old Hopkins? Not so much.
                It's not a matter of them fighting off their back foot because we know they are three of the best at doing it, but when it comes to footwork movement, I think those two are better at it than Floyd. It's a good thing Floyd is good at fighting at close range, and still be able to measure where each punches are coming at him from as well as using his upper body to not getting hit.

                Nowadays, I'd say Floyd does it[lays on the rope] because it's an effective tactic that he has mastered, but i also think he does it to rest his legs by taking a breather.
                Last edited by Carpe Diem; 02-12-2012, 07:42 PM.

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                  #1908
                  Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                  It's not a matter of them fighting off their back foot because we know they are three of the best at doing it, but when it comes to footwork movement, I think those two are better at it than Floyd. It's a good thing Floyd is good at fighting at close range, and still be able to measure where each punches are coming at him from as well as using his upper body to not getting hit.
                  Fighting at closer range and getting into the positions he does whilst being some what aggressive takes great footwork also.

                  Despite popular believe/myth, Mayweather's footwork has been exceptional in his last 3 fights.

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                    #1909
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Fighting at closer range and getting into the positions he does whilst being some what aggressive takes great footwork also.

                    Despite popular believe/myth, Mayweather's footwork has been exceptional in his last 3 fights.
                    Exceptional at cutting off the ring effectively? Definitely. Exceptional at fighting off the back off? Not so much.

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                      #1910
                      Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                      Exceptional at cutting off the ring effectively? Definitely. Exceptional at fighting off the back off? Not so much.
                      He shut Ortiz down pretty effectively the few times he had to move backwards.

                      And other than 5 times or less, he hasn't had to fight off the back foot in his last 3 fights. Why would he move backwards when he can stand right infront of his opponent and dominate them?

                      If he were to be forced backwards by a fighter then you would see him move backwards and dominate his opposition.

                      People think Mayweather has no choice but to move forward or stand still. It's bull****.

                      He hasn't had to. Big difference.

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