Filipino cheaters and quitters

[Eastbay Giant]

He never quit in a fight.. He was koed by sugar ray robinson in the second round.

You should look up Bernard Docusen, a pinoy who gave SRR a life and death fight.

"The fastest and most exciting battle seen in a Chicago ring since the Rocky Graziano-Tony Zale battle in the Stadium a year before... Docusen proved a foeman worthy of Robinson’s keenest steel... The flashy Filipino was not daunted in the least by Robinson’s reputation... For ten rounds Docusen fought Robinson on fairly even terms, and there was little to choose... Robinson pulled his waning forces together at the start of the eleventh."

"Docusen was dazed by the attack and then Robinson caught him with a left hook that put him down for a nine count. Robinson "had fought himself out in the previous flurry and lacked the power to finish his reeling opponent. For the remainder of the fight Robinson had the upper hand."


Pinoys have been around.. From battles with Saddler, Henry Armstrong, etc, to the greatest of all time. Pinoys have been fighting for a long time against the best and have won. There have been many pinoy champs just not that much recognition because the fan base at the time was not conducive to their success like Manny Pacquiao who has come at a time where it can be lucrative to be Pinoy and famous in America.

He quit after his only professional fight, and no one denies Filipino boxers have been around. Only a small hand full could be considered great outside of Villa, Elordes, Espinosa Garcia and Pacquiao the rest were basically journeymen.

[Eastbay Giant]

He quit after his only professional fight, and no one denies Filipino boxers have been around. Only a small hand full could be considered great outside of Villa, Elordes, Espinosa Garcia and Pacquiao the rest were basically journeymen.

I forgot Gerry Penolosa, a good fighter who made up for lack of punching power with great heart.

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Well if you consider gerry penalosa a great fighter than some of those fighters must not be very good.

Haha! You full of hate.

[Alibata]

He quit after his only professional fight, and no one denies Filipino boxers have been around. Only a small hand full could be considered great outside of Villa, Elordes, Espinosa Garcia and Pacquiao the rest were basically journeymen.

You dispel the notion that only 5 people would recognize these guys. A true fan you are. You are right. The P.I. has had many champs but the greats the P.I. has produced in comparison to many other countries are pretty good ratio, countries not named Mexico or The United States.

[theplayerpimp]

Haha! You full of hate.

Haha why? Tell me if that is not the truth dude looses every time he steps up and has how many loses?

[Alibata]

Well if you consider gerry penalosa a great fighter than some of those fighters must not be very good.

Gerry was a champ. . Not as great as the others but should be recognized for living up to his nickname, "fearless". If only he would come around when he was younger. You guys watched Gerry get his shots when he was on his way out the door. Many of them where widely recognized as robberies ie, Morel, De leon.

[Zarco]

I'll give you 2 right now on the # for # list.

Many of the Pinoy Champs in the video are still alive.
Navarette
Espinosa
Etc
Etc.

Thats not to take away from the point I was trying to make because the thread poster was trying to compare something that is statistically flawed. You are posting peanuts in comparison to Mexican boxing. In the last 25 years compare the # of Filipinos who fought on HBO or Show to Mexicans. So what if it was the other way around you see? You can also easily sit there and say that the car accident rate of Filipinos in the US is below that of Whites in the US.

[Chups]

Haha why? Tell me if that is not the truth dude looses every time he steps up and has how many loses?

LOL!! @ 35 granpa year old sure. All of them robberies except for the Juan Manuel Lopez fight, imagine that. Had some US promoter brought him in the US to fight during his prime he would have kicked ass, coz he kicked ass way past his prime.

[theplayerpimp]

Gerry was a champ. . Not as great as the others but should be recognized for living up to his nickname, "fearless". If only he would come around when he was younger. You guys watched Gerry get his shots when he was on his way out the door. Many of them where widely recognized as robberies ie, Morel, De leon.

Naw robberies? Maybe the morel fight but i didnt watch it. The de leon fight wasnt de leon just out worked him throwing like a hundred punches per round. Maybe not landing all of them but was landing enough. Well every time i saw him even when he beat gonzalez he was tottally out classed until the body shot. Im not gona count the lopez fight bc he was clearly to small and past it. But i dont see how somebody could claim he is great.

[Alibata]

Thats not to take away from the point I was trying to make because the thread poster was trying to compare something that is statistically wrong. The names you posted are a handful compared to Mexican boxers. In the last 10 years compare the # of Filipinos who fought on HBO or Show to Mexicans. So what if it was the other way around you see? You can also easily sit there and say that the car accident rate of Filipinos in the US is below that of Whites in the US.

That has always been a matter of demographics. Penalosa for example has been fighting for years and showed world class talent in being competitive with most he traded leather with yet we in the U.S. have only heard or witnessed him in the twilight of his career, thanks to Manny P opening doors. I see what your saying though, I am just pointing out the reason why Pinoys have not been on HBO is because there hasn't been a proven audience to sell Pinoys like Mexicans or Puerto Ricans with a huge fan base in or close to the U.S... I think Pinoys have enough of a population now to garner the interest of promotors and maybe networks that may start seeing them as lucrative (see pinoys all the time now fighting on spanish networks/Pinoy power ppv).
Boxing is a business. I see what you are saying though.