Sergio Martinez Not Happy With Emeritus Status

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  • -PANDA-
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    #31
    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
    What are you talking about. Dude has the best belt in that division still as the ring magazine belt has been around longer and has more prestige.





    Also since he is emeratus champ, after Chavez faces Zbik, Martinez can immediantly challenge him and if Chavez takes any other bout, or tries to duck him, then he is immediantly stripped and Sergio is made full time champ again.

    If the WBC sticks to their rules, then Martinez will be champ again by this fall.

    I'm on the fence on this whole situation because in a sense he had to face Zbik, a guy who has been waiting almost 2 years for his shot at the title. Sergio was willing and that would have solved the problem but HBO didn't green light it so he had the choice of either fufilling his mandatory duties and giving up one of his HBO dates, or taking a HBO fight and risk getting stripped.

    People cry foul, and I can see that, but at the same time Sergio was Vernons mandatory for almost 2 years and they were gonna strip Forrest if he didn't defend it against Martinez. Vernon was murdered and they handed the title to Sergio, but again his situation and Zbiks are the same and were handled the same.

    The only issue I really have is them letting guys like Pavlik get away with long periods of inactivity as well as letting Chavez leapfrog a few guys in the rankings. Other than that.....technically they did the right thing accordingy to their rules.

    People may not what to hear that....but whatever, sometimes the truth hurts.
    chavez jr hasnt beaten anyone in the wbc top 10 at 160...he was awarded the silver belt while zbik was still interim champion (technically the same title) and while martinez was full champion. chavez also didnt fight the #2 or in his case being the #2 he didnt even face the #3 in the division

    the wbc dont take their own rules as seriously as they should

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    • Khalid X
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      #32
      Originally posted by Alex_Hayden
      They just stripped him and gave it to this Zbik guy so Chavez could fight for it? Only one with that kind of pull and power is Arum.

      Arum allegedly gets Angulo deported to save Cotto and now he's probably ****ing with Serg for the sake of Chavez Jr?

      Cool promoting, bro.
      Dude lets keep it real for a second and just realize who is to blame.

      If I'm a promoter and I have a top guy on the comeup, don't you think it's wise to make sure his paper work in legit?

      Not to sound racist, but with the issues in this country concerning Illegal immagration and undocumented workers, why is Angulo in California, without his paperwork being straighten out.

      The only thing that would make this situation more idiotic is if he lived in Arizona and tried to pull this ****.

      Somehow that's everyone fault except Shaws and Angulo's manager? Please.......

      Trying to make up conspiracy theories that Arum to blame for that is just foolish. At what point to does responsibility and accountability take over and we quit playing the victim role?

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      • Khalid X
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        #33
        Originally posted by -PANDA-
        chavez jr hasnt beaten anyone in the wbc top 10 at 160...he was awarded the silver belt while zbik was still interim champion (technically the same title) and while martinez was full champion. chavez also didnt fight the #2 or in his case being the #2 he didnt even face the #3 in the division

        the wbc dont take their own rules as seriously as they should
        I agree.

        If you notice I pointed that out as one of the problems I had with this situation.

        The regional belt thing is one way the get guys to leap frog others in the rankings.

        Still they can technically get away with it due to that being apart of their rules (regional belt holders, silver belt holders etc have higher rankings than those w/o belts).

        However, they really can't do anything to cheat Martinez outta his rights as emeritus champ. If Martinez calls out Chavez vs Zbik winner, then that fight has to take place. They have no known history of not sticking to their rules when it comes to that, so I can't see them fvkking over Sergio.

        IDK, if you ask me.....it should be Lemiux vs Zbik for the title, but what I think will happen is Martinez faces Chavez ($$$ fight) then faces Lemiux ($$$ fight in canada) so in the end it works out for Martinez and the fans.

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        • DoktorSleepless
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          #34
          Originally posted by Check_hooks
          Everyone knows Martinez is the best at 160. But he keeps talking about moving down in weight for a payday. But he ballons up to 180+ inbetween fights so its hard to know what weight he wants to fight at next.
          He does not balloon to 180+. He was 175 in the first weigh in with clothes and after eating a big meal. And keep in mind that was after a half a year of being inactive. He was not in shape. He only came in at 168 at fight night with Paul Williams. The super middleweight fighters weigh like 185lb pounds at fight night. Close to 20 pounds heavier than Martinez. Martinez is a pretty small middleweight. Not that I wouldn't like to see him at fight at super middleweight, but I see no reason for him not to fight at 154 as well since that's closer to his natural weight.
          Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 02-02-2011, 12:15 PM.

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          • JmH Reborn
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            #35
            The whole thing is a sham. I feel for Martinez because he worked hard for it and has actually defended it against a top tier fighter, only to be quickly stripped for Zbik. Pavlik had held the title hostage for a couple of years with no reprecussions.

            If I was Martinez, I certainly would not pay any sanctioning fees and tell the WBC to shove that **** up their asses. He has the Ring title, which carries more prestige anyways. C'Mon Sergio, take command.

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