Why did Mosley not fight Tito at 147 in their primes?

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  • 120
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    #21
    Originally posted by ts33
    Mosley's chin is granite. Definitely > Tito's chin (as much as i like Trinidad)

    i'm not sure how well Tito would have taken Shane's right hand
    Shane traded and would have traded with Trinidad...I don't see Shane beating Tito at 147 at any point in their careers

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    • jri9d0
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      #22
      Originally posted by 120
      Shane traded and would have traded with Trinidad...I don't see Shane beating Tito at 147 at any point in their careers
      Co-sign, Tito’s Achilles heel was slick boxers with good lateral movement/footwork and a decent jab, Shane (as much as I like him) possessed neither.

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        #23
        Originally posted by bearman3000
        Was he not able to make 147 anymore?
        Trinidad had been fighting at Welterweight since he was 18 years old and had extreme difficulty making the weight and had planned on moving up on several occasions, but was never afforded a title shot, not even after he knocked out Troy Waters in a title eliminator. The only reason Trinidad stayed at welterweight was so that he could get the big fights that would catapult him to super stardom. De La Hoya knew this and much like the great yet egotistical Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar has always used his star power and financial clout to induce opponents to fight under circumstance that were to his advantage.
        Before 1980, it was universally recognized that Carlos Ortiz was the greatest fighter in Puerto Rican history, but a lot has happened since then and two other Puerto Ricans have etched their places in the annals of boxing history; Wilfredo Gomez and Felix Tito Trinidad. Both fighters had long distinguished careers and both of them set a number of records. Trinidad was the longest reigning Welterweight Champion in history, surpassing the mark set by Freddie Cochrane in World War II. Tito made 15 successful defenses during the course a reign that lasted over 6 years. Even though he won the title from the ordinary Maurice Blocker, he made a number of defenses against quality competition. Ninety-four was definitely the most impressive year of his title reign. He successfully defended his title against Hector Camacho, Yori Boy Campas, and Oba Carr. Combined they entered the ring with a 130-2 record. After that stellar year, Tito’s career went into the doldrums, promotional problems and the political turmoil between King, HBO, and Main Events stalled Trinidad’s career and he made a number of defenses against nondescript opponents, which included Rodney Moore, Roger Turner, Larry Barnes, Kevin Lueshing, Ray Lavato, and Freddie Pendleton. Tired of waiting and having trouble making the Welterweight limit, Trinidad signed to fight Terry Norris in the summer of 97 in what surely would have been a barn-burner. Unfortunately Norris broke away from King and signed with Arum in hopes of landing a seven-figure payday against Oscar De La Hoya. So instead of fighting Norris that fall Tito knocked out Aussie Troy Waters in one round in what was supposed to have been a 154-pound title eliminator.

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          #24
          Trinidad's last fight at 147 was shortly before Mosley's 147 lb. debut against Rivera.

          At the end of 2000, Trinidad had beaten Reid and Vargas for 154 lb. titles, and Mosley had beaten DLH at 147 and later defended his belt against Diaz. Mosley publicly said he would like a fight with Trinidad, but Trinidad had already agreed to go to 160 to take part in Don King's Unification tournament.

          Tito "retired" in 2002 but there was already talk of him coming back by the end of 2003. Mosley fought Winky in 2004 @ 154 (where both had belts), there was originally talk of him fighting Mayorga, but Mayorga lost to Spinks at the end of 2003. There was talk of Shane fighting Tito had Shane beat Winky (I don't remember if it was supposed to be at 160 or a catchweight or something), but Winky won. So Trinidad fought Mayorga instead.

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          • boxer2k5
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            #25
            why is shanes chin better than tito?
            tito was stoped once at middleweight.
            and getting flashed knocked down dont really mean anything.

            tito vs mosley would have been better than mosley vs oscar
            huge match i made this same topic a while back. but yeah at their
            best they were in different weight classes im sure if they wanted to really
            they could have met at 154 but one would win while the other would lose. so
            it was just bad timing. oscar fought everybody lmao

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