Re: Manny's Skills. Foot Movement is not a skill?

[Rassclot]

Being fast on your feet doesn't = Great footwork. If his footwork was so great he wouldn't have ended up on the ropes against a slow ass Margarito so often.

Barry Sanders is not a skilled running back

[boxer2k5]

Punching on the move while off balance is a skill set.

He knocked Cotto down while off balance. that is a skill.


Marquez was loving the canvas like a power bottom.



I do box and I can appreciate talent when I see it. There is the text book way of doing things and there are those that operate outside the box. Those are talented outliers.



You know nothing about boxing.

again talent and skills are different things. talent your born with you have even before someone trains you before you practice. 2 differnt things. i know more about boxing than you because you say dumb ****. you dont box jsut because you got in the ring and got out dont mean ****.

you bring up dumb **** like marquez being on the canvas liek wt does that have to do with his skill? its boxing you get knocked down. manny been knocked out whats your point?

[PandaKilla]

People also need to think, wait a minute, this guy is skillful but is he gifted.

Or does he lose some of his skills because he is more of an attacker.

Same with defensive fighters, do they have natural speed, range, and reflexes to do what they do. Basically without their speed, reflexes, and length, and fast legs, would they be where they are?

It goes all ways, but believe me, when a fight is real fast, you don't know what the hell you are doing, or what someone else is doing, unless you're a good boxer.

[boxer2k5]

Barry Sanders is not a skilled running back

what does football have to do with boxing? barry sanders footwork compared to manny is like apples and jackets. cant compare the 2. 2 different training goals skills abilities.

[jrosales13]

Who is this dude Rassclot?

Some idiot who should be banned

Being fast on your feet doesn't = Great footwork. If his footwork was so great he wouldn't have ended up on the ropes against a slow ass Margarito so often.

Margarito is a good pressure fighter. He doesn't get enough credit for his pressure skills.

And, Floyd was caught on the ropes against an average fighter at best in Phillip Ndou. Is like if Floyd had great footwork he shouldn't have ended up on the ropes against a fighter like Phillip Ndou of all people.

But, whatever I get it, Pac is not that good at all.

[SplitSecond]

if you're not picking your shots and being a boring bastard you're not skilled

and also lack footwork

[boxer2k5]

manny pacquiao is a great athlete. he has very strong legs he works out like the champion he is. he has fast hands and fast feet. but his footwork isnt good. his strong legs and strong core keeps him balance even tho he makes amateurish mistakes. thats fact. manny has plenty abilty. manny skills is his combination punching using the ability of his fast hands. his skill of being able to jump in and out because of his ability fast strong legs. but thats not amazing he jsut jumps in or out. might spin to the side here and there.

but like i said look at marquez figure him out manny was off balance and looked dumb most of the rounds relying on his speed and and volume pressure not footwork

[boxer2k5]

Some idiot who should be banned



Margarito is a good pressure fighter. He doesn't get enough credit for his pressure skills.

And, Floyd was caught on the ropes against an average fighter at best in Phillip Ndou. Is like if Floyd had great footwork he shouldn't have ended up on the ropes against a fighter like Phillip Ndou of all people.

But, whatever I get it, Pac is not that good at all.

floyd wasnt caught. watch many of his fights he lays on the ropes he did with jesus chavez oscar even gatti. pressure didnt put him there or keep him there and he was barely hit with the 100+ punches ndou threw. int he whole barrage floyd was rollign catching and smiling the whole time. margirito pressure is good but thats all he has. hes too slow and too easy to hit. granted he can take hella of a punch though.

[boxer2k5]

if you're not picking your shots and being a boring bastard you're not skilled

and also lack footwork

not true at all. were not talking about manny whole skill set this is just about footwork. dont get mad and sad. manny is high skilled in other areas. i just dont think his footwork is all that. with all the amateurish mistakes he makes and punching off 1 foot like cmon lol.

i mean his biased fans who really dont know what it means to get in that ring and box and train not to be in shape but train to compete and fight. really dont know the difference between skill talent and ability they dont know whats good bad and just down right wrong.

[jrosales13]

floyd wasnt caught. watch many of his fights he lays on the ropes he did with jesus chavez oscar even gatti. pressure didnt put him there or keep him there and he was barely hit with the 100+ punches ndou threw. int he whole barrage floyd was rollign catching and smiling the whole time. margirito pressure is good but thats all he has. hes too slow and too easy to hit. granted he can take hella of a punch though.

Same as Pac but whatever.