Best British Middleweight/Super-Middleweight from the Golden Era?

[NAB]

Steve Collins is a overrated bum.

Agreed....

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

I voted for Chris Eubank.

[JUYJUY]

Is it tru that collins kept tryin to get a fight with Roy Jones, lol he would of been outclassed, i heard even collins was tryin to get a fight with Roy yrs after he had retired ? was collins brain dead or somethin?

Collins expects fight against Jones

FORMER WBO Super Middleweight champion, Steve Collins, said last night he expects to fight Roy Jones Jnr in the next few months.
The Irishman admitted he had already rejected an offer to return to the ring to fight Jones. "For financial reasons, it was not good enough," said Collins.
"His fight last weekend was not a big seller in America and he needs to establish himself in Europe to keep a name going in the States. To do this, he would have to fight a European boxer with a high profile in America and that is me.
"It is the only fight I would consider coming out of retirement for. With negotiations currently ongoing, I feel very confident that it may take place this side of Christmas and hopefully it will happen in England, possibly at the Nynex Arena in Manchester, where I have a big following with a number of Irish people based there.
"I will just see how things develop over the next few weeks."
Collins said remarks he had made regarding a possible third fight with his old foe, Chris Eubank, had been taken greatly out of context.
Collins fought the Brighton boxer twice in 1995 — at the Green Glens Arena in Millstreet, and at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, the first of those fights taking place on St Patrick's weekend, seeing the Dubliner claim the Super Middle Weight title from the then unbeaten Eubank.
"What I said was that if Eubank had beaten Carl Thompson last Saturday in Sheffield, to win the World Cruiser Weight title, then I would have considered fighting him as a warm-up fight for a possible contest against Roy Jones, Jnr.
"However, since Eubank lost to Thompson again, I see no point in me fighting him. I would have nothing to prove against him. If he did have a World title, however, a third fight would certainly have been a possibility."
Since the time Collins beat both Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn over the past two years, there has only been one fight that he has been chasing, a meeting with the hard-hitting American, Jones. However, the Florida-born boxer has continued to prove very elusive to Collins and was one of the major factors in his decision to retire from the sport last October, because the fight looked as unlikely as ever to happen.
At the moment, Collins is training his own team of boxers at the new professional gym in Dublin, the first in the Republic, and is keeping himself in good condition, currently weighing in at around the 13 stone mark.
Jones is, at present, the WBC and WBA World Light heavyweight Champion, having unified those two titles with his defeat of New York, Lou De Valle last Saturday night on points at Madison Square Garden.
WBC champion Richie Woodhall, who was outpointed by Jones in the 1988 Seoul Olympics on the way to a bronze medal, said: ''Collins is a guy I really admire, he's good for the game. He's always wanted the big one with Jones. I can see why he wants to come back for that. It would be a mega-fight for him.'' And Chris Eubank? ''I don't think Chris should pack it in, I just think he's fighting at the wrong weight. He still has a lot to offer.
"He probably took more punishment in his last two bouts than in the whole of his career, apart from the Nigel Benn fights.
''There's nothing wrong with the guy, his strength and his chin are unbelievable. I still think he's capable of becoming a world champion again at light-heavy or even super-middle.
''He was in it all the way against Thompson, but it was Thompson's size. It was like putting Marvin Hagler in with Mike Tyson, both tremendous fighters — but Hagler wouldn't be in the right division.
''I wouldn't mind a fight with Chris. It's all about money, and if you get in the ring with Eubank you are on a good earner.
''He's been getting more supporters since he's been losing, and that's the way the British public are. The game needs him, he generates interest, enthusiasm and money.''
Woodhall's date for his defence against ex-WBC champion Vincenzo Nardiello, of Italy, looks set to be announced next week. That fight should have gone ahead this Saturday in Sicily, but Don King lost the right to promote it and the fight will now be staged by the second highest purse bidder, Frank Warren, in the Midlands.
A Woodhall-Joe Calzaghe showdown is one of British boxing's 'naturals' waiting to happen. Both men are promoted by Frank Warren, so it would not be a fight weighed down by politics and could well happen next year.

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Collins was shocked into retirement

TRAINER Jimmy Tibbs has revealed that former world champion Steve Collins has been shocked into retirement after he collapsed during a sparring session on Monday.
The 34-year-old Irishman has decided to call it a day after falling face down on the canvas during a work-out with British middleweight champion Howard Eastman at the Lennox Lewis gymnasium in London.
Within minutes of the collapse, Collins, who has not boxed since July 1997, was rushed to hospital where he received tests and a brain scan which have given him the all-clear.
The former world middle and super-middleweight champion was set to return to the ring next month after nearly two years on the sidelines.
But Tibbs said: "When Steve got himself together after they had done the tests and he had been given the all-clear, we all agreed that the best thing for him to do was to stop boxing.
"I was delighted when he told me that he wouldn't be boxing any more. He said that he believed it was a warning for him and he needed that to make him stop boxing.
"He needed something like that to shock him into retirement. He's not skint and it's the right decision. Steve had said at the Press conference for his comeback that he wasn't coming back for the money.
"To see a tough guy like Steve Collins collapsing to the canvas like that was very frightening."
Collins was due to contest a non-title bout on the supporting bill to Joe Calzaghe's WBO super-middleweight defence against Rick Thornberry in Cardiff on June 5.
He had then lined up an autumn clash with the Welshman in an attempt to regain his old world title, with the Celtic Warrior promised a shot at WBC light-heavyweight champion Roy Jones if he won.
It is understood that Collins has returned home to Dublin where it is expected he will formally announce his retirement after a career in which he enjoyed epic victories over the likes of Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank.
Eastman's trainer Ronnie Davies said: "I was terrified when I saw Steve falling forward onto the canvas.
"The strange thing is that I didn't see a punch land on Steve. But Howard said that before Steve collapsed he had caught him with a right on the top of the head.
"If there was a punch it couldn't have been that hard because we had told them to take it easy and they were wearing 18-ounce sparring gloves."
Collins won the WBO super-middleweight title in March 1995 by outpointing Eubank. He made seven successful defences, including a repeat victory over Eubank and two against Benn.
Collins' promoters, Sports Network Europe, said he was due to leave hospital yesterday evening. A spokesman yesterday afternoon said: "Steve Collins would like it to be known he is sitting up in bed and will be discharged from hospital later on today."

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[Tha Greatest]

I like how you got louis, hagler and conn in your sig!

AWESOME JUYJUY!!


Either way, Collins was a *****..

[JUYJUY]

I like how you got louis, hagler and conn in your sig!

AWESOME JUYJUY!!

I quite like Eubank and Benn in my sig too

[Tha Greatest]

I quite like Eubank and Benn in my sig too

I dunno much about them, I got to get a few of their fights and watch them first...

It just seems that me and you are the only ones that appreciate what Billy Conn did but everyone here talks about RJJ instead because he's so OVERRATED...

[The Troll]

I voted for Nigel Benn I thought he was leading in teh first Eubank Benn fight, and the stoppage was called prematurely in Eubank's favor. And he beat McClellan, though through some questionable (dirty) tactics. But I dont really blame him because he was hurt and just trying to win. McClellan was an idiot in that fight for letting Benn get off first to often and not throwing that left hook to the body enough. I only remember him throwing his trademark left hook to the body with real conviction once and that was in the 8th and it sent Benn down.

[theclawoftheTiger]

JUY I actually preferred to watch Nigel Benn from 88-91 and preferred to watch Chris Eubank from 91-94, Benn was more colourful 88-91 and Eubank was more colourful 91-94 .. although yes I suppose they were most complete vice-versa to that ( in the yrs you mention )

[Moschino045]

Collins expects fight against Jones

FORMER WBO Super Middleweight champion, Steve Collins, said last night he expects to fight Roy Jones Jnr in the next few months.
The Irishman admitted he had already rejected an offer to return to the ring to fight Jones. "For financial reasons, it was not good enough," said Collins.
"His fight last weekend was not a big seller in America and he needs to establish himself in Europe to keep a name going in the States. To do this, he would have to fight a European boxer with a high profile in America and that is me.
"It is the only fight I would consider coming out of retirement for. With negotiations currently ongoing, I feel very confident that it may take place this side of Christmas and hopefully it will happen in England, possibly at the Nynex Arena in Manchester, where I have a big following with a number of Irish people based there.
"I will just see how things develop over the next few weeks."
Collins said remarks he had made regarding a possible third fight with his old foe, Chris Eubank, had been taken greatly out of context.
Collins fought the Brighton boxer twice in 1995 — at the Green Glens Arena in Millstreet, and at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, the first of those fights taking place on St Patrick's weekend, seeing the Dubliner claim the Super Middle Weight title from the then unbeaten Eubank.
"What I said was that if Eubank had beaten Carl Thompson last Saturday in Sheffield, to win the World Cruiser Weight title, then I would have considered fighting him as a warm-up fight for a possible contest against Roy Jones, Jnr.
"However, since Eubank lost to Thompson again, I see no point in me fighting him. I would have nothing to prove against him. If he did have a World title, however, a third fight would certainly have been a possibility."
Since the time Collins beat both Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn over the past two years, there has only been one fight that he has been chasing, a meeting with the hard-hitting American, Jones. However, the Florida-born boxer has continued to prove very elusive to Collins and was one of the major factors in his decision to retire from the sport last October, because the fight looked as unlikely as ever to happen.
At the moment, Collins is training his own team of boxers at the new professional gym in Dublin, the first in the Republic, and is keeping himself in good condition, currently weighing in at around the 13 stone mark.
Jones is, at present, the WBC and WBA World Light heavyweight Champion, having unified those two titles with his defeat of New York, Lou De Valle last Saturday night on points at Madison Square Garden.
WBC champion Richie Woodhall, who was outpointed by Jones in the 1988 Seoul Olympics on the way to a bronze medal, said: ''Collins is a guy I really admire, he's good for the game. He's always wanted the big one with Jones. I can see why he wants to come back for that. It would be a mega-fight for him.'' And Chris Eubank? ''I don't think Chris should pack it in, I just think he's fighting at the wrong weight. He still has a lot to offer.
"He probably took more punishment in his last two bouts than in the whole of his career, apart from the Nigel Benn fights.
''There's nothing wrong with the guy, his strength and his chin are unbelievable. I still think he's capable of becoming a world champion again at light-heavy or even super-middle.
''He was in it all the way against Thompson, but it was Thompson's size. It was like putting Marvin Hagler in with Mike Tyson, both tremendous fighters — but Hagler wouldn't be in the right division.
''I wouldn't mind a fight with Chris. It's all about money, and if you get in the ring with Eubank you are on a good earner.
''He's been getting more supporters since he's been losing, and that's the way the British public are. The game needs him, he generates interest, enthusiasm and money.''
Woodhall's date for his defence against ex-WBC champion Vincenzo Nardiello, of Italy, looks set to be announced next week. That fight should have gone ahead this Saturday in Sicily, but Don King lost the right to promote it and the fight will now be staged by the second highest purse bidder, Frank Warren, in the Midlands.
A Woodhall-Joe Calzaghe showdown is one of British boxing's 'naturals' waiting to happen. Both men are promoted by Frank Warren, so it would not be a fight weighed down by politics and could well happen next year.

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Collins was shocked into retirement

TRAINER Jimmy Tibbs has revealed that former world champion Steve Collins has been shocked into retirement after he collapsed during a sparring session on Monday.
The 34-year-old Irishman has decided to call it a day after falling face down on the canvas during a work-out with British middleweight champion Howard Eastman at the Lennox Lewis gymnasium in London.
Within minutes of the collapse, Collins, who has not boxed since July 1997, was rushed to hospital where he received tests and a brain scan which have given him the all-clear.
The former world middle and super-middleweight champion was set to return to the ring next month after nearly two years on the sidelines.
But Tibbs said: "When Steve got himself together after they had done the tests and he had been given the all-clear, we all agreed that the best thing for him to do was to stop boxing.
"I was delighted when he told me that he wouldn't be boxing any more. He said that he believed it was a warning for him and he needed that to make him stop boxing.
"He needed something like that to shock him into retirement. He's not skint and it's the right decision. Steve had said at the Press conference for his comeback that he wasn't coming back for the money.
"To see a tough guy like Steve Collins collapsing to the canvas like that was very frightening."
Collins was due to contest a non-title bout on the supporting bill to Joe Calzaghe's WBO super-middleweight defence against Rick Thornberry in Cardiff on June 5.
He had then lined up an autumn clash with the Welshman in an attempt to regain his old world title, with the Celtic Warrior promised a shot at WBC light-heavyweight champion Roy Jones if he won.
It is understood that Collins has returned home to Dublin where it is expected he will formally announce his retirement after a career in which he enjoyed epic victories over the likes of Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank.
Eastman's trainer Ronnie Davies said: "I was terrified when I saw Steve falling forward onto the canvas.
"The strange thing is that I didn't see a punch land on Steve. But Howard said that before Steve collapsed he had caught him with a right on the top of the head.
"If there was a punch it couldn't have been that hard because we had told them to take it easy and they were wearing 18-ounce sparring gloves."
Collins won the WBO super-middleweight title in March 1995 by outpointing Eubank. He made seven successful defences, including a repeat victory over Eubank and two against Benn.
Collins' promoters, Sports Network Europe, said he was due to leave hospital yesterday evening. A spokesman yesterday afternoon said: "Steve Collins would like it to be known he is sitting up in bed and will be discharged from hospital later on today."

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collins would of had his ass well and truly handed to him on a had he fought Roy, collins may of had chance of givin Roy a tough fight around 1995 but definately not ****in 1999 wtf,,? theres only one boxer who would of even lived with RJJ and that is a prime Eubank (prime Eubank was 89,90,91,92,first half of 93)

[JUYJUY]

403 views and only 19 votes?

It seems like you American's don't give a **** about our British Churchill Gazza Prince Charles Beckham Fish And Chips At the Pub Mate Rainy Little Island crap. Or maybe your just fed up with reading the word Eubank?