Dissing HBO?

[The Gambler1981]

better fights? you mean like putting Zab Judah back on the air after one win on ESPN?


or were you talking about the next time they put Robert Guerrero on? or maybe the next time Juan Diaz fights again? or maybe another featured bout involving Rocky Juarez?

Or why don't they put on JMM-Diaz which was fight of the year last year, or JMM-Katsidas, or Margarito-Mosley, or Maidana-Ortiz, or Litzau-Cabellero, or Martinez-Williams I, or Martinez-Williams II.


Please HBO does way more good work then bad~

[Tha_Greatest]

Berto just fought a stiff for a couple of million and will most likely fight randall bailey. Stepping up my ass.

i cant wait till hbo puts paul williams on the network and rob his opponent of a desision again , lol, nyahahaha

[War Dinamita]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=5897306


So pretty much, Arum's offer would have given Sergio Martinez the biggest payday of his career. Since Arum's figher is the ticket seller/attraction and Dibella's is neither, I can fully understand Arum balking at Lou's counter proposal. If you ask me, Dibella is just as much to blame for Martinez-Cotto not materializing than Arum is.

Why should a promoter be pushed around by a crocked and shady promoter? Dibella did the right thing by rejecting Arum's bull**** offer. Arum gave him a bull**** offer and wanted to keep all the money.

No smart business man would've accepted that deal because they would've lost millions by accepting 2.5M upfront.

[War Dinamita]

HBO has bigger boxing budget that is true, but Showtime is like that kid with a rich parent (CBS).

While HBO has the bigger budget, Showtime has more resources and if CBS decides to open up more money for boxing......then they have the potential to blow HBO out the water.

Will that happen, I'm not sure, but people are really sleeping on Showtime and their potential in the sport of boxing.

Timer Warner also has billions.

The difference is HBO actually has a big budget and Showtime's budget will remain the same. It doesn't matter if CBS has more money because they're not spending it on boxing fights. They can have all the money in the world, but they're not going to spend it on boxing.

If Showtime really wanted to be a player in the boxing business... they could've done that a while ago.

[sigrab jr]

You guys *****ed and moan on here because HBO wasn't making the best possible fights and they were spending too much money on certain fighters like Williams and Berto.

Now that HBO is trying to put together the best possible fights, no more bs fights, and trying to spend their more wisely, a lot of you guys have been dissing HBO.

Sorry, but Arum going to Showtime is a big downgrade from HBO. Showtime doesn't have the boxing budget that HBO has and they don't have 29M subscribers in 150+ countries, etc. Anyone who thinks Arum going to Showtime is a great move is an idiot.

Answer this question for me... Who was the person who didn't want Cotto to fight Martinez? Blame Arum for all of this because Martinez and Cotto wanted to fight each other this year. HBO would've loved to have the fight in March.

Stop your *****ing and stop blaming HBO because it was Arum who didn't want Cotto to fight Martinez.

Good post, green k given.

[War Dinamita]

It doesn't really matter because Arum, Pac, and Top Rank will come back running to HBO.

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[jrosales13]

It doesn't really matter because Arum, Pac, and Top Rank will come back running to HBO.

Comeback running? What do you mean? You act like he's not doing business with HBO at all right now?

There are 2 top rank shows on HBO coming up. One just got made official the last couple weeks.

Is like saying Golden boy will comeback running from the Hopkins-Pascal. They didn't go anywhere.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Why should a promoter be pushed around by a crocked and shady promoter? Dibella did the right thing by rejecting Arum's bull**** offer. Arum gave him a bull**** offer and wanted to keep all the money.

No smart business man would've accepted that deal because they would've lost millions by accepting 2.5M upfront.

You have a solid offer, a career high payday for Martinez. A chance to beat one of the top names in the game, in a fight Martinez would be favored to win. A victory over Cotto could eliminate one of Pacquiao's future options and insert Martinez as an option. A win over Cotto could also eliminate a Cotto/Margarito rematch and possibly set Martinez up with a rematch with Margarito.

Please explain to me how fighting Dzinziruk for less is a smarter business decision.

[War Dinamita]

You have a solid offer, a career high payday for Martinez. A chance to beat one of the top names in the game, in a fight Martinez would be favored to win. A victory over Cotto could eliminate one of Pacquiao's future options and insert Martinez as an option. A win over Cotto could also eliminate a Cotto/Margarito rematch and possibly set Martinez up with a rematch with Margarito.

Please explain to me how fighting Dzinziruk for less is a smarter business decision.

It wasn't a smart decision for Dibella. Do you know how to read?

Your post makes no sense. You really think Arum is going to put Martinez in the ring against Pac or Cotto after what he did to Pavlik and Martinez? Lol.

Why would Arum and his company risk damaging Cotto's career and ending his career by putting him in with Martinez? He's not beating and Martinez would end his career. Cotto will beat Mayorga and Margacheato. If Cotto fought Martinez and lost, Martinez would've ruined Arum's plan to put Cotto in the ring against Margacheato in June in NYC and Pac in the fall.

Arum refuses to do any co-promotions with other promoters. He only does business with King. All his top fighters are still fighting TR fighters.