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  • #41
    Vargas hasn't been the same since Tito knocked his balls.

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    • #42
      The Mayweather Problem....

      The bottom line is that Mayweather is scared to lose....why didn't he demand a test when he fought Arturo Gatti?...or Ricky Hatton?...he started this testing business when Manny started destroying all competition, and he needed an excuse to not fight him.....I am sick of the Mayweather's....the nutty uncle, the silly father, and the fighter who doesn't fight.

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      • #43
        He got caught cheating using a banned substance so the testing must be effective. What an idiot!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by ennui View Post
          The bottom line is that Mayweather is scared to lose....why didn't he demand a test when he fought Arturo Gatti?...or Ricky Hatton?...he started this testing business when Manny started destroying all competition, and he needed an excuse to not fight him.....I am sick of the Mayweather's....the nutty uncle, the silly father, and the fighter who doesn't fight.
          I don't know man. Floyd made Shane Mosley take the tests as
          well and at that time Manny and Roach didn't want no parts of
          Shane. Floyd dominated Shane. I doubt Floyd is scared of losing
          because he is determined and so good at winning.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
            Vargas tested positive under the NSAC and Boxing Commission the same Commission that Pacman has been tested from since day 1 and has been clean.

            Floyd Mayweather ask for extreme drug test while every other fighter has fought Pacman without any ridiculous demands.. Until the Mayweathers find proof Pac is juicing then they can request for these demands, til then Floyd is going to continue to Duck Pacman as he did when he took a short retirement when the WW division was stacked with opponents..

            Floyd has fooled the public.. Sorry *****s.. Its the truth..
            But there are still other fighters who didn't get caught. The
            door swings both ways. I doubt Floyd is ducking Pac in all honesty
            because Floyd had his window of opportunity to say no to Pac when
            the split was decided to be 50/50 eventhough Floyd considered himself
            the bigger draw. Another opportunity was when team Pac asked for
            a 10MIL penalty for every pound over 147. Floyd had many opportunities
            to bail out on the fight but he didn't. Pac was the one beefing about
            a random blood test? I'd rather give blood then pay 10MIL for coming
            in at 148 in a 147LB match. Do you guys even look at it like that?
            To prove my point even further about who held up the fight. Pac
            has the most history of stauling and almost walking away from fights
            if he don't get his way (De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto).

            I applaud Pac's negotiation skills because you have to be
            a hard ass in the business world but in all of his big fights Floyd
            made his negotiations easy (Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton). Floyd
            obliged Pac in everyway possible and the one thing he wanted
            out of the deal was for BOTH to undergo random blood testing.
            Forget about Sr, Malignaggi and whoever else was talking about
            Pac juicing because Manny was supposed to settle the beef in
            the ring with Floyd. Pac would have made everyone look like
            *******s if he took the tests and passed but he didn't so what
            are people supposed to think?

            In all honesty the way the negotiations went down I don't think
            Arum ever had any intention on making that fight happen because
            he doesn't want to do business with any other promoters except
            Don King. I don't understand how people (Pac fans in general) can't
            see all of this? This is not hate coming from me but plain common
            sense.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
              7 day cut off is better than 18 day cut off.
              no cutoff is better than 7 day cut off

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              • #47
                Thats a joke. pacman destroying all the competition! All manny has done is beat fighters who have already been beat! mayweather isnt scared! manny fights only slow fighters! name one FAST UNBEATEN fighter manny has beat!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
                  Do u think floyd has the balls to accept pac's bluff of drug testing? I don't think so, floyd would prefer to go in jail than to fight pac for 50 million dollars in the ring.

                  wow it is amazing how much damage pac has done to the sport of boxing. he started by giving us great exciting fights at the lower weight classes but from that point he did a great injustice to boxing..

                  - he makes it acceptable to be insensitive to your fellow opponent by dehydrating them and making them come to fight at a weight that is not only uncomfortable to them but also life threatning.

                  - he makes a mockery of the sport by winning tittles in certain divisions by stripping his opponents the luxury of coming in at the weight the actual division allows.

                  - his stardom affects boxing in a negative light given that his fights are the biggest in the sport yet the most one sided because of the aforementioned.

                  - he fights fighters whom are extremely beyond capasity to give him a real challenge ex. cotto (forced weight, damaged by margs cheating, past prime) delahoya (forced weight, past prime) margarito (forced weight, past prime)
                  mosely (forced weight, past prime) clottey brings a whole different situation we will discuss next..

                  - he only fights fighters that are under his stable and boss/promoter bob arum which gives the su****ion that the fights might be fixed. this notion is backed up by the clottey fight whom hurt him although it seemed very obvious he tried not to punch an opponent whom he hurt in the biggest fight of his career.

                  - he nationaly objected to random blood testing before a fight

                  - drags a potential opponet into a court battle over his own undoing

                  - ducked boxers who could have given him a real challenge

                  boxing is better off without pac

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
                    Vargas tested positive under the NSAC and Boxing Commission the same Commission that Pacman has been tested from since day 1 and has been clean.
                    But, your logic fails since Mosley was not caught by that same commission when he was doping.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Kampung.Boy View Post
                      He got caught cheating using a banned substance so the testing must be effective. What an idiot!
                      And, Mosley didn't get caught so the testing must not be effective enough.

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