What active boxer has the best resume at heavyweight?

[Barry Halls]

Im defending the KLitschkos in basically every post i make about them. I think they get unjustified hate thrown at them, and they are generally underrated.

The klittards in this thread however are so completely ****ing ridiculous right now, that it hurts all their future arguments.
Wladimir is a great fighter, but lets not get ******ed. Beating todays contenders are in no way shape or form the same as fighting Tyson, Bowe, Holmes or even Michael ****ing Moorer.
I mean just look at Sam Peter and the way he fight.
I still feel Wlads best win is Chris Byrd, and that says alot really. Not his fault the division has been so weak, but it hurts his legacy compared to ATG hw's like holyfield.

When it comes to losses, ofcourse they won't affect Holyfields legacy as badly as some posters here try to make it. He is way over the hill, and it does not take away from the quality fighter he was.
Do you ever hear anyone talk about Duran losing to william joppy when they discuss his ATG status?

[Barry Halls]

Shot Tyson was KOed by Danny Williams

Yeah... ALMOST TEN YEARS LATER...

Are you serious?

[the niggest]

Shot Tyson was KOed by Danny Williams
close decision win over Mercer, who Wlad STOPPED
the mediocre Moorer actually beat Holyfield
Foreman was OLD and was beaten by Axel Shultz (who was robbed)
Holmes was an OLD MAN
Ruiz would have been easily KOed by either Klitschko, was beaten by Chagaev
and cruiserweights don't count, this is about heavyweights

It's so obvious Megamerican is a racist supremacist who hates Wlad.

Explain to me how Wlad has a better resume than Holyfield? Who did Wlad beat that was so good? Who did Wlad beat who was as good as Rid**** Bowe or Mike Tyson?

[BxFanViento]

Wladimir

Easily Wladimir

[Barry Halls]

I'll remeber you said that if we ever talk about Wlad's or Vitaly's legacy.

Losses counts for something, especially losses that happens during a fighters legit career when hes supposed to be competing at close to his peaklevel.

If Wlad keep fighting til hes almost in his fifties and start losing to a bunch of scrubs, most people will look past that and evaluate him as how good he was before he was shot.

The totality of the resume must be taken into account, not just the parts you feel put the boxer in the best light. He has less title defenses than Wlad, less fights, he only reigned at CW, he held titles at HW but he was never the top dog for as long as Wlad is now.

This is bs. Legacy in boxing is not about making the correct decision when to retire.

Wladimir has ZERO competition for the top spot. It is like comparing ruling the cruiserweight division of today compared to the bantamweight. The level of competition is a big difference.

[flat1985]

Hahahahaha you tryed it and forgot that a certain Holyfield is still active LMAO!

[WladIsTheChamp]

The Losses after the Lewis fights doesn't take anything away from his legacy because he was way past his prime when he lost to Ibragimov, Donald, Toney, Byrd etc etc, only idiots believe otherwise. And I don't care what the judges said, he did beat Valuev.

Does losing to Danny Green take anything away from RJJ's legacy? Offcourse Not because RJJ was shot and 40 years old.

Does losing to Trevor Berbick take anything away from Muhammad Ali's legacy? Hell NO because Ali was beyond shot, 40 years old and suffering from the early stages of parkinson.

I could go on and on... Losses doesn't take ANYTHING away from a fighters legacy if it happens when the fighter is old and way past it.

LOL at the last sentence. How do you define when a fighter is "old" then and "past their prime"? Because your Tyson nut hugging @ss thinks he got old and past it at 21 when he lost to Buster.

Losses do count, otherwise stats would be meaningless. 49-0 would be meaningless. Nobody would mention the Dolphins' undefeated season then.

Also by your definition, coming back in the face of adversity and over-coming losses would be meaningless, and we would stop keeping track of things like "two-time champ" and "three-time champ", Vitaly and Holyfield BTW are only a handful number of champs who won the title back 3 times.

By your definition then, Pac is no longer great because he lost in the beginning of his career.

[The Hammer]

Legacy in boxing is about being American and black. That's why Holyfield is better than Klitschko, ever though either brother would have beaten him.

This is what you're really saying.

[Larry the boss]

Analysing Holyfield's losses

- schooled by Chris Byrd, who was destroyed twice by Wlad.

- dominated by Larry Donald, who was knocked down 4 times and KTFO by Vitali (was the first and only man to knockdown and KO Donald).

- stopped by James Toney, who was dominated by Peter, who was destroyed by both Klitschkos.

- dominated by Sultan Ibragimov, who was dominated by Wlad.

- beaten twice by overrated one hit wonder Rid**** Bowe, who was exposed and destroyed twice by Golota, who was KTFO by Lennox Lewis, who was dominated and retired by Vitali.

- beaten twice by Lennox Lewis, who was dominated and retired by Vitali.

- struggled against Ray Mercer, who was annihilated by Wlad (was the first man to knockdown and KO Mercer).

- struggled against Vaughn Bean, who was destroyed by Vitali (was the only man to KO Bean).

lmfao old holyfield got a draw and a decision loss to lewis..prime vitali got tko'd and almost lost an eyes

[Barry Halls]

This is what you're really saying.

lol... I'm not black and im not american, and i made a thread that got called out by sensitive african-ameircans as being racist towards them.

Lets play this game. You list Wladimirs top10 W's and then do the same for Holyfield. Then you will probably see how ridic your opinion is.