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Originally posted by big_pappyi respect your OPINION but you too have a clouded view of boxing. the one thing you have to understand is that every boxer is very hittable. its just a matter of finding out how to do it. mosley was hitting arms i agree, but as we saw mosley does not have the power that trinidad has. if trinidad hits his arms like that they will eventually drop. when your arms are getting hit it takes thier strength away. sure mosley couldn't do it but mosley does not have the power that tito does. and you say that dlh stuck sturms body. i agree. but with love taps compaired to what tito would do to winky. and correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't dlh have a reputation for being too tired to fight after say the 6th round? tito never goes to the body? you obviously didn't even watch the tito mayorga fight let alone ant of his others if you say he doesn't go to the body. now i'm not sayin that if tito and winky fight its going to be total tito domination. winky hs a very good chance for an upset. but the one thing you have to remember is that the one thing that most of tito challengers have underestimated is his power. tito will eat alot of jabs. sure tito may hit arms for the first 2 rounds. but i just don't see it that way. tito is an accurate puncher. he pics his shots wisely. i would take tito mid fight stoppage. as far as the money goes..... gimmie a break. winky needs to quit being a leech. stop trying to get the money that tito is drawing. it makes no sense to me for winky to make more than 3 mil. i wonder if sturm would take the 3 mil? i'd rather see that fight any way.i give sturm a better chance at tito than i do winky. just my OPINION guys.
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Originally posted by DLTYou just dont understand boxing. Saying Wright is very hittable is like saying that Floyd and Toney are very hittable. Floyd and Toney let guys hit them and they roll the punches or block them with their hands, arms, and shoulders. This tires fighters out then you can dominate them when they stop punching. Wright also lets people hit him. He always keeps his guard up. You cant penetrate his D. He keeps his arms straight up so that's all you hit. All Mosley was hitting was his forearms. You could see that he was frustrated because he couldnt get through. Wright leaves his body exposed for shots just like Sturm, but when you have used this technique for a long time then your body is trained to handel the body punch. Oscar watched tape on Sturm and thought he could eat this guy's body up, but it never hurt Sturm because he has trained his body to handle them. That's exactly what Manny Steward was saying after the fight. What Oscar was doing early on looked good but it never hurt him because he is equipped to take that, and what happened. Oscar started to wear down. Tito never goes to the body anyway. He will hit Winkys arms all night long
LOL i dont understand boxing. youre trying to say winky can stand in front of trinidad with his hands up and win a fight? who has EVER stood in front of trinidad and won? and i dont understand boxing? how are floyd/toney similar to winky? winky gives you his ENTIRE body including his liver. floyd and toney show half of their body, and keep their left hand low to defend it. they leave the left side of their head open and depend on reflexes to dodge and counter. floyd and toney use shoulder roll, winky does not. they dont fight ANYTHING alike so how can you compare winky to floyd and toney? i just find it hilarious since shoulder roll stance is ALL about defending your midsection. your liver is hidden in the back and you keep your left hand low defending your lead side. winky has both hands high exposing his belly. you have absoluetely no clue what youre talking about. oscar and mosley have absolutely no power to break that sort of defense strum and winky use. please up your boxing iq before you step to me againLast edited by Xecutioner; 12-15-2004, 02:24 PM.
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Originally posted by XecutionerLOL i dont understand boxing. youre trying to say winky can stand in front of trinidad with his hands up and win a fight? who has EVER stood in front of trinidad and won? and i dont understand boxing? how are floyd/toney similar to winky? winky gives you his ENTIRE body including his liver. floyd and toney show half of their body, and keep their left hand low to defend it. they leave the left side of their head open and depend on reflexes to dodge and counter. floyd and toney use shoulder roll, winky does not. they dont fight ANYTHING alike so how can you compare winky to floyd and toney? oscar and mosley have absolutely no power to break that sort of defense strum and winky use. please up your boxing iq before you step to me again
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shoulder roll defense defends your midsection better than any other stance. you have no shot at hitting someones liver whos in a shoulder rolls stance. you only see their lead side (shoulder) they give you half the target a fighter in normal stance does. they keep their left hand low also defending the exposed side of their body. right hand is high to block a high lead left hook. reflexes used to dodge the right hand. theyre defending themselves with shoulders , back, arms etc it is very difficult to get to their midsections.
winky and strum fight very similar. they bully behind a jab and the fact that they havent faced someone hard enough to bring their hands down. trinidad is a MUCH harder puncher than mosley. i just cant picture anyone exposing their body to trinidad and being able to withstand the barrage of punches. tito throws beautiful combinations if you give him a target. and winky is a very big target. look at the guys who've had success against trinidad, executioner and dlh. they moved the whole fight and kept a jab in his face. neither of them stood in front of trinidad. now, if winky came in with a plan to fight how he used to and move alot, then i could see him giving tito a lot of trouble. but i havent seen him fight that way in ages. when was the last time winky faced a good puncher? vargas?
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Originally posted by Xecutionershoulder roll defense defends your midsection better than any other stance. you have no shot at hitting someones liver whos in a shoulder rolls stance. you only see their lead side (shoulder) they give you half the target a fighter in normal stance does. they keep their left hand low also defending the exposed side of their body. right hand is high to block a high lead left hook. reflexes used to dodge the right hand. theyre defending themselves with shoulders , back, arms etc it is very difficult to get to their midsections.
winky and strum fight very similar. they bully behind a jab and the fact that they havent faced someone hard enough to bring their hands down. trinidad is a MUCH harder puncher than mosley. i just cant picture anyone exposing their body to trinidad and being able to withstand the barrage of punches. tito throws beautiful combinations if you give him a target. and winky is a very big target. look at the guys who've had success against trinidad, executioner and dlh. they moved the whole fight and kept a jab in his face. neither of them stood in front of trinidad. now, if winky came in with a plan to fight how he used to and move alot, then i could see him giving tito a lot of trouble. but i havent seen him fight that way in ages. when was the last time winky faced a good puncher? vargas?
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Originally posted by K-Yohe should be able to name his price, he deserves it, he ait gonna sell himself short. and if don king only offered 3mil you know its gotta be worth more than that.
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