***proof that Ali would have beaten tyson***

[Larry the boss]

My proof that Tyson would have wonis in the clip below fast forward to 0:55 when Cus starts sparring with Ali and look at how that kind of bothered Ali:



And of course this is the closest style comparison that Ali fought to compare to Mike:

damn cus had skills even in his old age..amazing

[RL_GMA]

the firs round of tyson biggs


watch that and tell me wht would have tyson done if that was muhammad


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpEXNHgRpNE&feature=related[url]

How can you prove something that's literally IMPOSSIBLE to prove?

Proof there's Aliens >>> Proof Ali would've beaten Tyson.

[Die Antwoord]

Who hit harder, Prime Tyson, or Henry cooper? If you say Tyson hit harder than Henry Cooper you can pretty much say with definite proof prime tyson would destroy pre-war Ali. Post war Ali didnt dance or move around like pre-war, and Tyson would find him easier, get up in him and punish him. I got Tyson by brutal KO1 murder.

[Rassclot]

the thing with this fight is Tyson is actually faster than Ali.


Ali has problems with people that match him in speed. Frazier, Norton, Young all did that.

Ali eats slow punchers for breakfast. Foreman, Liston etc.



Tyson in his prime was faster than Ali in foot speed(pursuing speed has an advantage over back-peddling speed), movement and handspeed. Tyson also packed that KO punch Ali didn't.

People say Tyson is a mental midget. He's gone 12 rounds before and it wasn't until he completely lost his hunger for fighting that he began being broken. When driven he can over-come affliction. People love to hate on Tyson because it is the cool thing to do.


The fact is Joe Frazier beat Ali in his prime. Tyson is bigger, faster and stronger than Frazier.

[Larry the boss]

triangle theorys never work....ali>>>>buster douglass

[Mud]

Not sure if Biggs even won that round. He hardly landed his jab and got caught with some big shots at the end.

But yea, Ali handles Tyson with ease IMO.

BUT, Holmes was jabbing and moving in the last round of his fight with Tyson before getting KTFO.
So u never know.

[Mud]

the thing with this fight is Tyson is actually faster than Ali.


Ali has problems with people that match him in speed. Frazier, Norton, Young all did that.

Ali eats slow punchers for breakfast. Foreman, Liston etc.



Tyson in his prime was faster than Ali in foot speed(pursuing speed has an advantage over back-peddling speed), movement and handspeed. Tyson also packed that KO punch Ali didn't.

People say Tyson is a mental midget. He's gone 12 rounds before and it wasn't until he completely lost his hunger for fighting that he began being broken. When driven he can over-come affliction. People love to hate on Tyson because it is the cool thing to do.


The fact is Joe Frazier beat Ali in his prime. Tyson is bigger, faster and stronger than Frazier.

Im not sure who was really faster. But Frazier, norton and Young didnt face a prime Ali, and didnt fight like Tyson.

I think Tyson gets tied up on the inside by Ali, and with Ali throwing for 15 rounds, Tyson would start fast, but slow down and get frustrated. Maybe he could land a KO punch, but Ali has an ATG chin, and tyson didnt KO everyone in his prime.

Frazier was a non-stop puncher, Tyson exploded here and there. But didnt have the will of Frazier, and wasnt a 15 round fighter who got stronger and more determined as the fight wore on.

[Rassclot]

Im not sure who was really faster. But Frazier, norton and Young didnt face a prime Ali, and didnt fight like Tyson.

I think Tyson gets tied up on the inside by Ali, and with Ali throwing for 15 rounds, Tyson would start fast, but slow down and get frustrated. Maybe he could land a KO punch, but Ali has an ATG chin, and tyson didnt KO everyone in his prime.

Frazier was a non-stop puncher, Tyson exploded here and there. But didnt have the will of Frazier, and wasnt a 15 round fighter who got stronger and more determined as the fight wore on.

Ali's ATG chin get thwacked by that 190 lb English-*** and got smoked by Smoking Joe. If Tyson landed that it would've been lights out. Frazier was a non-stop puncher but he was slow and ineffective. Joe can only punch with 1 hand which had true power. Tyson punches with both with more potency.


Ali's prime was after the lull for sure. All of his biggest wins came after. How can people argue Ali's prime was before? It's inconceivable.

[NChristo]

Ali's prime was after the lull for sure. All of his biggest wins came after. How can people argue Ali's prime was before? It's inconceivable.

Because he was clearly slower and his reflexes were not nearly as good and which win other then Foreman is bigger then the Liston I win ?.

Prime refers to a boxer being at his best, Ali was not at his best past 70 even though the majority of his best wins are there.

[CubanGuyNYC]

the thing with this fight is Tyson is actually faster than Ali.


Ali has problems with people that match him in speed. Frazier, Norton, Young all did that.

Ali eats slow punchers for breakfast. Foreman, Liston etc.



Tyson in his prime was faster than Ali in foot speed(pursuing speed has an advantage over back-peddling speed), movement and handspeed. Tyson also packed that KO punch Ali didn't.

People say Tyson is a mental midget. He's gone 12 rounds before and it wasn't until he completely lost his hunger for fighting that he began being broken. When driven he can over-come affliction. People love to hate on Tyson because it is the cool thing to do.


The fact is Joe Frazier beat Ali in his prime. Tyson is bigger, faster and stronger than Frazier.

First, let me say that anything could happen between these two. My opinion is shaped by the odds of what might happen, based on my knowledge of boxing and my observations of these two fighters.

It's been pointed out that Ali was dropped by lesser hitters than Tyson. True statement. But it was rare, and Ali was never even close to being out in any of those contests. Consider this: Ali may have been down against lighter punchers than Tyson, but Tyson didn't always annihilate fighters half as tough as Ali.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Ali, at least in the case of Henry Cooper, was a little careless and got caught with a perfect shot. Speaking of perfect shots, the one that Frazier took him down with was one for the ages. Ali got up.

Tyson's best chance would've been to score the KO early. Maybe he'd land the big punch, maybe not. Considering Tyson's reputation, Ali would've treated him very carefully. Ali was one of the smartest heavyweights of all-time. He would have a plan and stick to it. And, importantly, he had the tools to implement it.

It's also been noted that Tyson and Frazier didn't really fight the same way. Once again, true statement. Frazier's method was relentless pressure, aided by an incredible will to fight. Tyson, as pointed out, relied on explosiveness. He would throw a barrage of punches after momentary lulls in action. Tyson would usually slow down the pace of his assault if his opponent was still conscious after the first few rounds. This is where Ali would start to impose his will on Tyson.

My point is that if these two men fought ten times, Mike Tyson might land the KO shot once, while Muhammad Ali's approach would be more predictable.