Comments Thread For: Bradley-Alexander Winner Best at 140, Regardless of Belts

[TX_BOXNG]

Yall dont worry bradley is on his way to prove hes the best, i think maidana deserves the rematch against kahn, but they all good n to really kno who da best they have to fight each other, timmy is the more experience n the most all around fighter dats why people put him above jus like i do but he really has to fight king khan

[ChopperRead]

Kotelnik was robbed, flat out. No way did he lose the fight to Alexander.

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You sound crazy,Maidana pulled out of a Bradley fight with a fake back injury..Khan is a 50/50 fight with Bradley..Don't talk foolish and get so hype because Khan finally beat a puncher lol..Oh yea lay off the booze

The fight against Khan Will determine who's the best at 140.
Sugar Ray Leonard ranked above Ray Robinson, blasphemy, slap yourself a hundred times and say a thousand "our fathers".

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Kotelnik was robbed, flat out. No way did he lose the fight to Alexander.

I'm sure that deep down, even Alexander realises this, or perhaps not, he does seem a bit thick.

[JakeNDaBox]

This fight is not for the ring belt because, neither alex or brad are with goldenboy. The two best @ 140 not fighting for the ring belt, now that's corruption.

You know, I'm surprised it actually took 80 replies before someone actually suggested this.

I don't mind their decision to not make it for The Ring belt. Their reasoning is sound and as I mentioned earlier in the thread, B-Scene has Bradley and Alexander ranked 1 and 2 yet will not recognize the fight as lineal champ (Ring actually has Alexander #3, and Khan #2).

One thing that bugs me, though, is their open love affair with Khan. Their faux tournament sometime last year had Khan winning and I'd be lying if I said I didn't immediately recall that when reading their Ratings article yesterday.

If Rosenthal were the author of that article, then I'd buy a little more into bias being a part of their decision. But Dougie's a straight shooter and in fact has spoken out AGAINST The Ring and their rankings when the situation called for it. He's hardly a company man and I've always respected his work and his views.

[hitking]

That's fine. I can respect any sensible argument o/b/o Khan. I just feel that there's a much stronger case for Bradley in the event that he wins.

My greater issue comes with the uncertainty that a Bradley-Khan fight ever happens, or at least this year. If Bradley spends the entire year chasing a fight and Khan/Golden Boy decide to go big **** with him while basically spending the year entrenched in stay busy fights, then I don't see why Bradley should have to suffer.

Of course, if Alexander wins, it's an entirely different argument - although you then have the case where Alexander's best win now trumps anything Khan has done to date, however wide or small the margin is between the two.

The winner of this fight would be my #1, if I were forced to put a list together for 140. But, they just wouldn't be a clear cut #1.

[Rome-By-Ko]

The fight against Khan Will determine who's the best at 140.
Sugar Ray Leonard ranked above Ray Robinson, blasphemy, slap yourself a hundred times and say a thousand "our fathers".

Are you saying SRL could not hang with SRR??

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Or lets pretend Alexander didnt just get embarrassed by Kotelnik in his hometown.

Its two Yanks fighting....so they must be the best. Durrr

Jake acknowledged that in order for the winner of Bradley-Alexander to be the best at 140, they'll have to beat Khan next.

You just pick whatever you want off the article and bash him for no good reason.

Maidana-Khan fought, Khan was the winner, that doesn't make him the best at 140. Bradley-Alexander will be the best in Jake's opinion[I personally disagree] it doesn't make them the best, then he says the winner of Brad and Devon need to beat Khan to leave no doubt. Khan vs Devon/Bradley winner will obviously be the best at 140. But you're responding to Jake like if he didn't even acknowledge that the winner should beat Khan first, in order to be the absolute best.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Nothing... I'm just saying, one bad night doesn't forever define a career.

Alexander's ONE bad night as a pro was a close, controversial decision win. Plenty have made the argument that Alexander deserved to win (though by the slimmest of margins), whereas others had Kotelnik getting robbed. He's all but dominated everyone else he's faced. Urango was the only other fight in which he somewhat struggled, but he scored a monster knockout.

Honestly, I've heard more people argue that Maidana was handicapped by Cortez' over officiating in the Khan fight than those who claim Kotelnik was robbed against Alexander.

Funny how THAT is left out of the equation in this argument, when in fact that was the dominant point of discussion shortly after the fight.

For what it's worth, I had both Alexander and Khan winning 7 rounds in the aforementioned fights. Alexander won 115-113 on my card, while I had Khan winning 114-111 due to the KD, point deduction and the 10th scored 10-8 despite the presence of a KD.

I never said it defined his career. I said it defines his current ranking.

Alexander was lucky if he won 4 rounds. Khan won the vast majority of rounds against Maidana. What a horrible comparison. Absolutely horrible.

[sigrab jr]

This is how I see it.

Bradley right now is the best at JWW.

Khan is the 2nd best.

Alexander is the 3rd best.

Who ever in the top 5, beats Bradley right now, becomes number 1 JWW. That means if Alexander beats Bradley he will be number 1 ranked JWW.

If Bradley beats Alexander, since he's already number 1, he should be The Ring champion at JWW. But since The Ring is not gonna recognize the winner as their champion? Or at least that's the last I heard, then Bradley/Alexander need to fight Khan for The Ring title.