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  • JakeNDaBox
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    #51
    Originally posted by hitking
    I agree to an extent because I'm not a belt guy. I've been following boxing long enough and have a decent enough grasp of the game to know when I'm watching a top level fight. So any trophy that is on the line, or not, means pretty much nothing to me.

    That said, I don't believe that the winner of this fight is CLEARLY the top 140 lber out there. I think Khan has done enough to put himself in the race, and his resume is just as impressive as these two.

    As for The Ring magazine. I personally choose to follow their ratings because I think its the best option available. But, their choice of putting their belt on the line or not doesn't at influence my excitement for any boxing match.
    That's fine. I can respect any sensible argument o/b/o Khan. I just feel that there's a much stronger case for Bradley in the event that he wins.

    My greater issue comes with the uncertainty that a Bradley-Khan fight ever happens, or at least this year. If Bradley spends the entire year chasing a fight and Khan/Golden Boy decide to go big **** with him while basically spending the year entrenched in stay busy fights, then I don't see why Bradley should have to suffer.

    Of course, if Alexander wins, it's an entirely different argument - although you then have the case where Alexander's best win now trumps anything Khan has done to date, however wide or small the margin is between the two.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #52
      Originally posted by JakeNDaBox
      This article doesn't take an underhanded shot at anyone. In fact, part of the motivation was based on OUR OWN stance that this fight would not determine title lineage at 140.

      My argument is that championships of any kind doesn't matter, and that I don't need something at stake to tell me that next weekend's winner is the best 140 lb fighter in the world.
      Is this so hard for people to comprehend? Let's face it, most of the people on this board started watching boxing around 2000, at the earliest.

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      • JakeNDaBox
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        #53
        Originally posted by mushahadeen
        Not a fan of this hypothetical ****-- and I'm not saying Maidana wins-- just saying Maidana walks through Bradley's punches and catches him eventually just like he did Khan.

        Bradley is pretty slick but he's not Floyd.
        No disrespect... but your entire post is hypothetical. Not arguing your scenario as it's certainly plausible... but until the fight actually happens, it IS hypothetical.

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        • JoeDaWg
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          #54
          The writer needs to take a step back. The "best" at 140? U got kahn, who I'd take over alexander either day. I think currently bradley's got the top spot. Then lets not forget about madana who I think would have a good chance at beating either bradley or alexander. The division is too stacked for 2 of the top guys to fight and simply crown one of them the "best at 140". Winner needs to take on kahn, looser needs to find madana's number. Then I think we'd have a clear picture as to how 140 really shapes out.

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          • THE REED
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            #55
            Winner is best at 140... loser goes behind Khan...

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            • JakeNDaBox
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              #56
              Originally posted by dvb
              so bradley is considered the best,but his last 3 fights are:

              Abregu(abre who???) Welterweight,out of divsion fight.

              Peterson-
              good fighter,not great,lost to ortiz last fight,isnt as good as malignaggi,kotelnik or maidana.

              Nate Campbell-
              not a light welter,a lightweight,fight ending was dubious,headbut,overturned to no contest,dude was old,but fight had only just got started when it ended.

              Khans last 3:
              Maidana- most dangerous and wild one in the division.

              Malignaggi-only lost to cotto and hatton before,got robbed by diaz,outboxed him twice better than marquez did.

              Kotelnik-won the title off him, outboxed him every round,made him look rubbish,kotelnik disproved this by his performance vs Alexander,some question alexander given the win.

              Alexanders-
              kotelnik-barely "won",
              Urango-washed up a bit,good win though,
              witter-the quiter,already beat by bradley.

              I think khan from his last 3,4 fights,his wins,his performances,and the last 3 opponents experience and styles rank him no 1 right now.
              Salita actually came after Kotenlik, so that would be the one listed in his last three opponents if you're going to break it down that way.

              The way I see it is, Khan's last four fights are what have placed him near/at the top of the JWW mountain.

              As for your post, again much like I did a play on Dirk Diggler's earlier post, I can do the same to yours. You completely reduce Bradley and Alexander's opponents, yet act as if Khan's trio spent their spare time turning water into wine.

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              • jokling
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                #57
                The whole point of these 4 guys fighting was to determine who is number 1 in the division.I see now the Americans are trying to avoid Khan or take him out of the equation and still try to claim one of their guys in number 1.Sorry but not until the winner faces Khan.Who right now is waiting on who joins him for the chance to fight for the number 1 spot.

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                • Dirk Diggler UK
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JakeNDaBox
                  Hmm... or we can try this:



                  "Or let's pretend Khan didn't ever get knocked the **** out by Breidis Prescott in his backyard.

                  It's two Yanks fighting... so there must be bias. Durr
                  What does that have to do with his ranking at 140lbs?

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                  • Luilun
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                    #59
                    I believe that Alexander and Bradley are 2nd class to Khan and Madainia

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                    • lfc19titles
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                      #60
                      I laugh at the nuthuggers, nobody is dissing your boys, a lot of us are just saying it as it is.

                      Who has the best resume at 140? I think Khan just edges it

                      we all know speed kills in boxing, it does not count for everything but a lot of people are swayed by the quickest boxer, hence people like me saying khan will beat the winner

                      sure khan has a loss but that does not mean he is worse than undefeated guys, records are made to be broken, plus alexander was just in a fight which a lot of people he lost.

                      Personally even if alexander wins this, khan for me has a better resume than him still, if bradley wins this then yes he has the best resume

                      for me the winner will lose to khan anyway, i think if alexander wins, that will be an easier fight for him since he is more green rather than bradley

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