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  • tesla_power
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    #41
    I have no problems at all with this even though I'm going with Khan as the best 140 when the dust settles. It would then be much sweeter when Khan took the lineal title from the victor.

    IMO, let us just remember it was only lately did Khan emerge as a serious threat to the throne. Bradley and Alexander have been here at this division longer, took on all comers, and always manage to win. Please don't give me crap about how they not look good on this and that fighter. Looking crap against someone does not mean you lost.

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      #42
      Are you serious Jake?

      I've watched both Bradley and Alexander fight and om sorry, neither of these two are the best in the division. Im not a fan of anyone in this division BUT Amir Kahn beats these two hands down. In fact Khan has already beaten in my eyes the hardest opponent he can face in the division and thats Maidana. Neither Bradley or Alexander posses the KO power of Maidana which leaves only one way they'd beat Khan and thats by boxing......And Khan is far too quick for either of these two.

      JWW division

      1 - Khan
      2 - Maidana
      3 - Bradley
      4 - Alexander.

      Belts mean nothing.

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      • gingeralbino
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        #43
        Originally posted by scross1
        I've watched both Bradley and Alexander fight and om sorry, neither of these two are the best in the division. Im not a fan of anyone in this division BUT Amir Kahn beats these two hands down. In fact Khan has already beaten in my eyes the hardest opponent he can face in the division and thats Maidana. Neither Bradley or Alexander posses the KO power of Maidana which leaves only one way they'd beat Khan and thats by boxing......And Khan is far too quick for either of these two.

        JWW division

        1 - Khan
        2 - Maidana
        3 - Bradley
        4 - Alexander.

        Belts mean nothing.
        Maidana came damn close to beating Khan on points and Bradley is a better boxer than he is. There was only a round or 2 in it.

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        • hitking
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          #44
          This article takes an underhanded shot at Doug Fischer's article on ringtv.com titled "Not Yet", in regards to The Ring magazine choosing not to recognize the winner of this fight as their champion. Opinions will vary. But personally, I agree with The Ring on this one. These are not clearly the best two fighters in the division. Plus, Alexander struggled like hell with Kotelnik, while Khan beat him easily. So how could anyone say Alexander is clearly a step about Khan? IMO, The Ring got it right. The winner of this one needs to fight Khan for supremacy in the division.

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          • JakeNDaBox
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            #45
            Originally posted by hitking
            This article takes an underhanded shot at Doug Fischer's article on ringtv.com titled "Not Yet", in regards to The Ring magazine choosing not to recognize the winner of this fight as their champion. Opinions will vary. But personally, I agree with The Ring on this one. These are not clearly the best two fighters in the division. Plus, Alexander struggled like hell with Kotelnik, while Khan beat him easily. So how could anyone say Alexander is clearly a step about Khan? IMO, The Ring got it right. The winner of this one needs to fight Khan for supremacy in the division.
            This article doesn't take an underhanded shot at anyone. In fact, part of the motivation was based on OUR OWN stance that this fight would not determine title lineage at 140.

            My argument is that championships of any kind doesn't matter, and that I don't need something at stake to tell me that next weekend's winner is the best 140 lb fighter in the world.

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            • JakeNDaBox
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              #46
              Originally posted by scross1
              I've watched both Bradley and Alexander fight and om sorry, neither of these two are the best in the division. Im not a fan of anyone in this division BUT Amir Kahn beats these two hands down. In fact Khan has already beaten in my eyes the hardest opponent he can face in the division and thats Maidana. Neither Bradley or Alexander posses the KO power of Maidana which leaves only one way they'd beat Khan and thats by boxing......And Khan is far too quick for either of these two.

              JWW division

              1 - Khan
              2 - Maidana
              3 - Bradley
              4 - Alexander.

              Belts mean nothing.
              Glad we agree on the bolded part - precisely my point.

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              • JakeNDaBox
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                #47
                Originally posted by serv
                Funny article... didn't even mention Amir who has three impressive wins lately. hmmm... maybe he doesn't know Amir.

                The winner of Bradley/Alexander fight can't be considered the best at 140. The winner fights Khan... the outcome will determine the best at 140.
                Copied and pasted directly from the article:
                "Others believe that rising British phenom Amir Khan has since surged past (Alexander), citing his far more convincing win over Kotelnik a year prior as well as his surviving a major gut check against Maidana in their Fight of the Year candidate last December."

                "Should Alexander win, there exists a legitimate argument that he would have to beat Khan in order to remove all doubt in the divisional sweepstakes. Both have been at the title level for roughly the same amount of time, with Khan’s best moments rating higher than Alexander can claim at the moment."

                You were saying?

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                • JakeNDaBox
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Alan Partridge
                  To sum this article up: Let's pretend Amir Khan doesn't exist and doesn't have three impressive wins against Kotelnik, Malignaggi and Maidana on his resume.
                  see my above reply... same applies to your gibberish.

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                  • JakeNDaBox
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK


                    Or lets pretend Alexander didnt just get embarrassed by Kotelnik in his hometown.

                    Its two Yanks fighting....so they must be the best. Durrr
                    Hmm... or we can try this:



                    "Or let's pretend Khan didn't ever get knocked the **** out by Breidis Prescott in his backyard.

                    It's two Yanks fighting... so there must be bias. Durr
                    Last edited by JakeNDaBox; 01-19-2011, 09:15 AM.

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                    • hitking
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by JakeNDaBox
                      This article doesn't take an underhanded shot at anyone. In fact, part of the motivation was based on OUR OWN stance that this fight would not determine title lineage at 140.

                      My argument is that championships of any kind doesn't matter, and that I don't need something at stake to tell me that next weekend's winner is the best 140 lb fighter in the world.
                      I agree to an extent because I'm not a belt guy. I've been following boxing long enough and have a decent enough grasp of the game to know when I'm watching a top level fight. So any trophy that is on the line, or not, means pretty much nothing to me.

                      That said, I don't believe that the winner of this fight is CLEARLY the top 140 lber out there. I think Khan has done enough to put himself in the race, and his resume is just as impressive as these two.

                      As for The Ring magazine. I personally choose to follow their ratings because I think its the best option available. But, their choice of putting their belt on the line or not doesn't at influence my excitement for any boxing match.

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