Comments Thread For: Team McCloskey: Khan Fight is Dead! Offer Was a Joke!

[PandaKilla]

Ortiz v Peterson was a non title 10 rd undercard fight of a non ppv event.

big difference.

They are bigger names than Mcklowskey.

They are better than Mcklowseky.

Don't even bring me ranking top 5 or whatever.

Bradley
Alexander
Khan
Maidana
Kotelnik
Ortiz
Peterson
Urango
Judah
Mubuza
Matthyse

All beat him.

He isn;t really fast. He is damn open, and IMO won't take shots at this level.

He isn't that skilled, even though some say he's a decent, fast fighter. His technique is pretty bad IMO.




What is his highest pay day?

[gingeralbino]

They are bigger names than Mcklowskey.

They are better than Mcklowseky.

Don't even bring me ranking top 5 or whatever.

Bradley
Alexander
Khan
Maidana
Kotelnik
Ortiz
Peterson
Urango
Judah
Mubuza
Matthyse

All beat him.

He isn;t really fast. He is damn open, and IMO won't take shots at this level.

He isn't that skilled, even though some say he's a decent, fast fighter. His technique is pretty bad IMO.




What is his highest pay day?

havent a clue what his highest payday is, at a guess saying he's a good ticket seller and has been on sky id imagine somewhere between 50 and 100k.

but for someone who has never heard of him u seem to know a lot about him. He is wide open, and it works for him as a counter puncher, but he isnt fast compared to khan (still reasonably quick though), and he will get hit a lot against Khan. His chin and heart look good so far, but they havent properly been tested yet. how he'll take body shots could end up being his downfall.

Theres nothing wrong with his technique though its pretty good.

Im not arguing that he's a good chance of winning, he doesnt. Im saying he deserves more money for headlining a PPV event than a undercard fight. Ortiz and Peterson would demand a LOT more than they got for fighting each other to fight Khan.

We dont even know the figures (yet anyway) being quoted so its pretty much a waste of time arguing about if Khans being a cheap **** or if Paul is being a greedy bastard.

[STREET CLEANER]

Khan's camp is low balling everybody. But if you think that you can beat the guy why not take the fight. If you win the sky is the limit at 140 lbs

[Dave Rado]

Khan's camp is low balling everybody. But if you think that you can beat the guy why not take the fight. If you win the sky is the limit at 140 lbs

Every boxer thinks he can win his next fight (except in the case of really bad mismatches, which this isn't). But by definition, 50% of them turn out to be wrong, so to allow yourself to be seriously low-balled, especially in a fight where most experts think you will lose, would just be incredibly ******.

Plus, beating a big name fighter doesn't always make you a big name fighter, and doesn't always lead to you making big bucks. Mosley made next to nothing in his next few fights after beating De La Hoya.

[STREET CLEANER]

Every boxer thinks he can win his next fight (except in the case of really bad mismatches, which this isn't). But by definition, 50% of them turn out to be wrong, so to allow yourself to be seriously low-balled, especially in a fight where most experts think you will lose, would just be incredibly ******.

Plus, beating a big name fighter doesn't always make you a big name fighter, and doesn't always lead to you making big bucks. Mosley made next to nothing in his next few fights after beating De La Hoya.

But if it was me and I knew I was ready why not? Take a much lesser purse and take a chance in losing and your stock going down does not make business sense. I don't know McCloskey following but sometimes opportunity into the big time doesn't come that often.

You use the Mosley example, but he did get recognized more and it is not the norm. A lot of guys came out of obscurity after upsetting the star fighter.

[Dave Rado]

A lot of guys came out of obscurity after upsetting the star fighter.

A tiny minority do. The vast majority don't upset the star fighter, however much they think they will. That's why it's called an upset when they do. And even those who do get an upset win frequently go straight back into relative obscurity after their win, as Prescott did, as Mosley pretty much did, as Kirkland Laing did, when he beat Duran, as Sturm did when he beat De La Hoya (in the opinion of everyone except the crooked judges) - and the list goes on and on.

If he was made a reasonable offer, it would make sense to take it, but if he was seriously low-balled - and it seems that he was - then it doesn't.

If he's really any good, he'll get a title shot sooner or later in any case, so he's got nothing to lose by waiting until he becomes a mandatory, unless he is made a reasonable offer in the meantime. If he isn't any good, he's got nothing to lose by milking the local Irish hype and making big money beating nobodies, like John Duddy did.

And he's already ranked in the top 10 by both The Ring and boxrec, so he's not as obscure as you pretend, and unless he loses soon, he'll get a mandatory shot pretty soon just by keeping busy fighting bums.