Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: There is No Doubt Mayweather Beats Pacquiao

[Supreme75]

He came back after a two year layoff and fought JMM. I knwo, I know, those in IHate Mayweatherville believe that JMM miraculously goes from being one of the 2-3 bests fighters of his era as a lightweight and one of the worst fighters in history as a welterweight. But here on Earth, beating a fighter like that coming off that long a layoff was impressive.

Right, but as much as I hate doing the comparison thing, this example merits one. Coming off a two year layoff and fighting Sergio Martinez who is bigger, just as fast, has foot speed and has ko power, is NOT the same as coming off two years and fighting JMM. Not even close.

[hitking]

Right, but as much as I hate doing the comparison thing, this example merits one. Coming off a two year layoff and fighting Sergio Martinez who is bigger, just as fast, has foot speed and has ko power, is NOT the same as coming off two years and fighting JMM. Not even close.

I agree. I think Martinez beats Mayweather under any circumstance. If you look at what has given Mayweather problems in the past, Martinez is a combination of all. Speedy southpaws with good skill and counterpunching ability, see Chop Chop and Judah. Bigger guys that bullied him, see castillo and de la Hoya. Pac is a speedy southpaw. But, his boxing skills aren't as good as Chop Chop and Judah's and he's not as good a counterpuncher. Mayweather would solve that puzzle. But, Martinez brings the speedy southpaw, good counterpunching style. Plus, he has the size to bully Money. I think that puzzle is too much for the Money man.

[Gutz]

*** Oscar..


Pac wins by KO..


To bad Floyd the biggest chicken **** in boxing..

[hitking]

If Mayweather-Pacquaio happens, Pac will join a growing list of fighters Mayweather was at one time ducking, avoiding, scare of, going to lose to, blah, blah, blah, that he's now criticized for fighting.

Dan Rafale at one time criticized Mayweather for going through with his fight with Judah and avoiding the real welterweight champ in Baldomir. Yet, he later criticized Money for fight what he termed, "9 Loss" Baldomir.

The Ring magazine ran a cover story that Mayweather was going to the welterweight division in order to avoid Hatton. Yet now, he's criticized for KO'ing the same Hatton.

Bert Sugar once proclaimed JMM the most dangerous opponent Mayweather could fight after a two year layoff, even more dangerous than Pac. Yet, after the fight he criticized Mayweather for fighting him.

After Mosley jumped in Mayweather's face after the JMM fight. All of Mayweather's haters were screaming to everyone that would listen that Money was scared of Mosley. 8 months later, Mosley became old, shot, etc, etc, etc.

The best way to become irrelevant in today's boxing world is to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. Instead of his critics accepting that this guy is great, they simply downplay and **** on everyone he fights. Unfortunately and unfairly for Pac, he'll likely suffer the same fate. If Mayweather beats him, people won't be able to bring themselves to accept that Mayweather can fight. They'll simply say Pac was a media creation that was never as good as advertised and simply move on to the next hope for the Please Kick Floyd Mayweather's Ass fan club which will probably be Sergio Martinez.

[straightleft]

The *****s believed Floyd can beat Pac. Too bad, Floyd and his father.....

[chinoy]

Floyd wins all FANTASY fights.....he wins over SRL, Ray Robinson, Chavez, Cotto, Margarito and Pacquiao

[al-Xander]

The best way to become irrelevant in today's boxing world is to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. Instead of his critics accepting that this guy is great, they simply downplay and **** on everyone he fights. Unfortunately and unfairly for Pac, he'll likely suffer the same fate. If Mayweather beats him, people won't be able to bring themselves to accept that Mayweather can fight. They'll simply say Pac was a media creation that was never as good as advertised and simply move on to the next hope for the Please Kick Floyd Mayweather's Ass fan club which will probably be Sergio Martinez.

Naa. If I were a Floyd fan and sincerely believe in what you said
here, I'd be ****ting on him everyday in this forum till he fights
Pac. He's not my relative, why would I worry about wounding his
ego? It is Floyd fans that could help make this fight happen. These
kinds of arguments doesn't seem compatible with what you're saying
here. Man, I can't defend roadblocks if I want this fight to happen.
It will never make sense.

[IMDAZED]

I agree. I think Martinez beats Mayweather under any circumstance. If you look at what has given Mayweather problems in the past, Martinez is a combination of all. Speedy southpaws with good skill and counterpunching ability, see Chop Chop and Judah. Bigger guys that bullied him, see castillo and de la Hoya. Pac is a speedy southpaw. But, his boxing skills aren't as good as Chop Chop and Judah's and he's not as good a counterpuncher. Mayweather would solve that puzzle. But, Martinez brings the speedy southpaw, good counterpunching style. Plus, he has the size to bully Money. I think that puzzle is too much for the Money man.

I think that's a dead-on assessment and I think Martinez would put Floyd on his ass. Horrible style matchup for him.

[hugh grant]

Its not always WHO you fight, its when you fight them. Fighting Margarito immediately after he made Cotto scream No Mas was a big deal. Fighting him after he lost every second of every round before having his brain sent into orbit against Mosley, not so much.

Especially considering he had no relevant wins between the Mosley and Pacquaio fights. I mean seriously, fighting Paul Williams a couple months ago was a big deal. But after seeing him KTFO eyes wide open, he doesn't have the same shine.

Seriously, the nit picking has to stop! Pac at least fights. Floyd fans would just love to see Floyd to just fight. Are you just jealous and envious Pac might get too much credit for beating these names than you would like him to get?

So what Margarito lost to SSM? Fighters lose if they have an off day! Will Pac not get credit for beating sergio because he lost to margarito? But then you will say the cliched Sergio is a different fighter now, but would never entertain the possibilty that Margarito is a better fighter now for losing to SSM. That the Margarito that fought Pac that night was the best margarito ever. So BH should have lost to that Pascal guy in his last fight , because BH looked shot against RJJ in his last 2 fights or so?

Dont criticise Pac for fighting and winning better than you want him to win!

[hugh grant]

What has floyd done since his comeback that deserves a gold medal or something? They thinks he deserves the queens honour just because he fought SSM. Well Moya dont expect his ass to be licked just cos he fought SSM, yet *****s think Floyd should get a knighthood or something. Pac fights and Floyd dont.
Bottom line.
DLH said Pac is the best fighter in the world. But if he was a betting man he would pick Floyd because of styles. Criticise pacs opponents as much as you like (its easier to do it for floyd) Pac is the best fighter in the world.