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this is the quintessential ******* mistake. you mock and judge floyd all day long ok but, marquez? it shows they dont like boxing and clearly lack a logical understanding and love of the sport. they love pacquiao thats all. and usually for racial/national pride and nothing more.
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You are wrong in that department as well. I even told you in previous posts what I thought about some situations with Manny that I found "questionable". For most, that would suffice but you were too blinded with your affection of Floyd and wanted MORE!!!
When it's called for I question anyone and everyone .... but this Marquez is being way overblown and uncalled for. Even those who ask Manny to fight Marquez admit that Marquez would get blown out of the water at this stage in his career and at these higher divisions.
Not only do I think Manny beats Marquez, so would Berto and Mosley. That to me is reason enough for Marquez to have been the least favored of the 3 options.
The one thing that Marquez did have is that it would be a trilogy .... and that it would shut you guys up (temporarily lol!)
You sometimes get blinded with your comments and think that they are facts and others are dishonest but they are just opinions with a mix of facts. Including yours!Comment
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they coud easily find an agreed weight.
The last time they fought at 130, pacquaio came into the ring at 145 and his last fight pac came into the ring at 148. Thats a measly three pounds diifference, so they could easily fight again at welterweight without coming into the ring to much higher than their second fight. Roach stated he wont do the catchweight but would happily have a cap on the in ring weight, meaning they wont have to cut weight but still come in at a resonable weight. So a welterweight fight where they cant come in above 148 or even 150 (which pac doesnt like to anyway) would lead to a fair fight. When marquez came up to welterweight last time against mayweather the in ring weight of mayweather was much higher than pacs what pac comes in so i wouldnt use that fight to say that marquez couldnt fight pac at welterweight. Marquez cant fight big proper welterweights like pac has been able to do so in that regard he doesnt belong in weltweight but against pac who fights light at welterweight it would be fine. I say bring on a third fight if mayweather doesnt come to the party. Either that or the winner of Bradley v Alexander.
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Damn, you took the dishonest approach.
Wait here a sec, I'll just go put my other cap on......
" The one thing that Marquez did have is that it would be a trilogy .... and that it would shut you guys up (temporarily lol!)You are wrong in that department as well.
Back up fan-boy. I was 100% correct, just mis-directed in that particular example. It would be a mistake for you to erroneously assume that my attempt to be reasonable was a sign of weakness.
I even told you in previous posts what I thought about some situations with Manny that I found "questionable". For most, that would suffice but you were too blinded with your affection of Floyd and wanted MORE!!!
1.) I do not remember that, not at all, link please.....
2.) A number of Manny-fan's attempt to counter accusations that are directed toward Manny by immediately bringing up Mayweather.....
e.g.
Q. Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime.
A. " What about Gayweather..... "
Sshhhhh now, please don't do that to me.
Don't bring up the vacationer when talking to me because.....
a.) I don't give a *** about him
b.) I never mentioned him
c.) Marquez is my boy ^^
d.) Mayweather does not determine the standards that Manny is judged by
Got it ?
When it's called for I question anyone and everyone .... but this Marquez is being way overblown and uncalled for. Even those who ask Manny to fight Marquez admit that Marquez would get blown out of the water at this stage in his career and at these higher divisions.
Your opinion, and the opinions of others, are irrelevant to the outcome of that fight. Otherwise, we will just assume that Mayweather school's Manny easily because of his skillset, and because most of the educated boxing world thinks that he would win easy. No real need for that fight according to your methodology.
The point is this.....
the whole world wants a JMM fight, except Manny and his fan's
LMAO
Not only do I think Manny beats Marquez, so would Berto and Mosley. That to me is reason enough for Marquez to have been the least favored of the 3 options.
Styles make fights, and Marquez has no interest in WW. Your reasoning is either dishonest or ignorant. If you understand that styles make fights, and that JMM has Manny's number, then you are being dishonest. If you do not understand that styles make fights, then we simply should not be discussing this, or anything else for that matter.
You sometimes get blinded with your comments and think that they are facts and others are dishonest but they are just opinions with a mix of facts. Including yours! "
No way dude.
Give me one example EVER, where I have called somebody dishonest simply because they disagreed with me. Link me to that post.
EVERY single time that I have accused somebody of being dishonest, it is either because they ignored common-sense, or they ignored obvious facts.
I am more than happy to spend my time working through some examples with you. You come up with the example, and I will justify why I feel that the person I replied to was being dishonest.
My issue with " dishonesty " has only really been a factor since JMM accepted the 147 demand from Team Pacquiao. I would strongly advise you to keep away from that issue if you wish to go over some instances where I have accused posters of being dishonest.
You will have no luck there, and all of the good progress that you and I have made this afternoon..... will be in vain.Comment
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Which fighter ?
Oh, the one that was not beaten in the first fight, and clearly won the second?
LMAO
Manny knocked JMM down three times in the first round and broke his nose.....
and STILL couldn't beat him
BTW kid, what the *** happened there ? LMAO
The entire developed world saw Marquez win the second fight, just check the look on Manny's face before the winner was announced. He knew he lost that fight.
JMM was above his best weight, and past his prime, and he beat Manny in the rematch..... we all saw it.
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Come on guys, wake up.
" However, this fight only makes sense to me if it takes place at junior welterweight (and I would hope Marquez would weigh-in under 140 pounds). Why Pacquiao and company refuse to even consider fighting Marquez at 140 pounds (instead of the 144 or 147 they stipulate) is a very good question. The answer is obvious: they want every conceivable advantage against their aging but still-dangerous nemesis "
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Alvarez is smaller than Chavez.
But would he like to fight Chavez at 160?
You bet your ****in' ass he would and he'd wipe the floor with Chavez jr.Comment
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