Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao-Marquez, Chavez-Alvarez Not Likely

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jmm need to prove himself first at 147 against berto or other top 10 ww that he is a worthy opponent for pac.

Exactly, just like Manny proved himself at 147 before the Hoya fight.

And just like Manny proved himself at 154 before he fought for a JMW title.

No, wait.....

Aaaah ok, I get the picture. Anything that disadvantages Manny's opponents, is fine..... but anything that disadvantages Manny, is completely unacceptable.

You are nothing but a flag-waving idiot, pasawayako.

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I'm not saying I'm not interested in Pacquiao vs Marquez III, it's just I'm not interested in excuses.

Manny beats Marquez, then there will a plethora of excuses and complaining from Marquez and his fan boys.

Sorry, but I'm not interested in hearing that b.s. and I'm glad Arum is passing.

WHAT?

WHAT FKN EXCUSES WILL THERE BE AFTER MOSLEY?

Two-faced standards at their finest !!

After Manny TKO's him, which is exactly what will happen, all we will hear is "Marquez was an old man", "Marquez never belong at WW", "Manny should have fought an AA instead of the typical Mexican fighter he has been facing", or "Manny waited the JMM was old.

Really man, Both Marquez and his fans aren't interested in beating Pacquiao, something they know d@mn well is unattainable at this point in JMM's career, rather they wanna live with the thoughts of Manny ducking him. They know whats up and so does JMM, which is why he priced himself out.

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to both Roach and Ariza.

That fight would be a fairer contest, it would be better for boxing, and it would be better for Manny's legacy.

Of course, Manny would still have a significant advantage over the 37yo midget, but he would not have quite the same advantage that he would have at 147..... so I completely understand why that idea never occured to you.

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I didn't blame Floyd, this time! lol! Sorry for hurting your feelings!

You are calling Manny a coward vs Marquez ... by that premise, you are stating that Marquez has a good chance of defeating Manny at 147? lol!!!!!!

Again, you are calling Manny a coward for not fighting THIS Marquez? When they already fought twice at Marquez's ideal weight?

Tell me what Marquez has done over 135 to make you think that he can scare Manny and actually win? You answer that one and you get my vote for Manny vs Marquez at 147.

Marquez had to use every ounce of himself against Diaz both times at 135. That plus no proof of doing well at 135+ makes your comments easier to dispute than mine. That is what common sense is. Not you Manny is a coward.

How is this, do a poll and ask, who wins at 147. Please include in that poll "Manny wins by KO".

The ONLY reason that I would want to see that at 147 is to shut you guys (half of you ... the other half will scream why not Berto?)

There are many reasons why you are a ***wit......

But this time, you are a ***wit for not even considering the possibility that CLEARLY that fight should be held at 140.

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to both Roach and Ariza. I dare you to demand a link proving that

You dishonest flag-waving little ****s

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jmm has no problem fighting pac at 147 lbs, but the problem is nobody takes jmm as a serious threat to pac at 147 lbs. that means pac/jmm III doesn't sell. jmm has to establish himself atleast at 140 lbs for the fight to be realistically a possiblity.

chavez jr vs the ginger kid is possible, but the ginger has got to move up in weight. I doubt chavez jr will do a catchweight.

Here's the thing.....

Champion's go up one division all the time without proving themselves first, and boxing has worked that way since the very beginning.

A champion does NOT have to prove himself to go up one division.

You are wrong on that one.

Besides, Manny didn't prove himself for Hoya, or for JMW.

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to both Roach and Ariza. Hoya went to 147, but Manny won't go to 140, even after his coach/trainer admit that he is a genuine JWW.

You only insist that the fight should take place at 147 so that you get the opportunity to insist that a two division leap is too much for Marquez.

Fkn dishonest

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they really don't want nothing to do with marquez.top rank says there is no point because he doesn't wanna hear the excuses after marquez loses but you think no one is going to have something to say about manny beating shane?

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Here's the thing.....

Champion's go up one division all the time without proving themselves first, and boxing has worked that way since the very beginning.

A champion does NOT have to prove himself to go up one division.

You are wrong on that one.

here's the thing...

jmm already did it by jumping up to face wifebeater and failed miserably. before I wanna see him in there with pac, he's got to prove himself that the wifebeater fight wasn't just a fluke.

Besides, Manny didn't prove himself for Hoya, or for JMW.

yeah, and hoya got hammered by the boxing public for picking on a lightweight.

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to both Roach and Ariza. Hoya went to 147, but Manny won't go to 140, even after his coach/trainer admit that he is a genuine JWW.

You only insist that the fight should take place at 147 so that you get the opportunity to insist that a two division leap is too much for Marquez.

Fkn dishonest

I got no problem with the fight at 140 lbs. it's arum that refuses to budge on 147. but jmm has to prove himself

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I don't believe none of this **** for a minute. Pacs gonna get passed mosley and then what?

Arum already said, the winner of Cotto-Margarito 2 will face Pacman in a rematch.

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There are many reasons why you are a ***wit......

But this time, you are a ***wit for not even considering the possibility that CLEARLY that fight should be held at 140.

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to both Roach and Ariza. I dare you to demand a link proving that

You dishonest flag-waving little ****s

You just shot down my last post (I replied to you) when I said, "that you finally made a good respectful post, with no name calling" I guess you missed that or just had a "off night". lol!

You don't even know what we are discussing yet you think you know it all. That's just part of your problem.

I was replying to another one of Floyd's fans who I guess thinks just as bad about your comment as mine. This guy thinks Manny is ducking (a coward) Marquez at 147 and therefore thinks Marquez would beat Manny and 147.

He brought up all this nonsense not me!

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Who did Hatton beat to get Pacquiao?
Who did Cotto beat to get Pacquiao?
Who did Clottey beat to get Pacquiao?
Who did Margarito beat to get Pacquiao?
Who did Mosley beat to get Pacquiao?

Just shut up. You're an idiot.

FU. Marquez piss drinker haha

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Arum already said, the winner of Cotto-Margarito 2 will face Pacman in a rematch.

Marquez couldn't even 1rd against Floyd and he wants Pacman... What a joke.. Marquezs career went downhill remember that piss drinker..