Pacquiao/Clottey only sold 20,000 tickets

[dj Ramos]

this is so last year, you ****s still rambling about ticket sales? get over it.

[Bastian Loc]

But he knocked them down a whole crap load of times with one punch!

He did the same thing to the guys at the higher weights too. Who weighed much more and were much stronger.

[Bastian Loc]

It is not weird... It be weird if he did not increase his speed power or whatever... He was weight drained most of his career... Look at when he was a feather weigh hydrating in at close to welter... It is not weird for cotto to have better punch resistance at 147 then he did at 140 or Kahn at 140 then he did at 135. Manny too. I mean he was koed by torrecampo a nobody at a lighter weight and not by barrera or morales or marquez... He was a starved kid and has gotten to a healthy weight and fights healthy... All you guys that bring this up just talk and don't really think about what your saying that is why most don't believe manny is on peds but rather floyd is ducking manny.

So now a 106 pounder was weight draining himself? How do you weight drain yourself when you have to eat 3x the recommended amount of calories to make 144?

Ariza's been on record as saying Pac could still easily make 135.

[V.WEBB]

Well when 9 times out of 10 the ones bittching and moaning about this are *****s it's not exactly a wild assumption.

Uh...if you read a guy's post without an assumption going in, that can be avoided. Sadly, that doesn't happen on this wonderful site.

[Alibata]

So now a 106 pounder was weight draining himself? How do you weight drain yourself when you have to eat 3x the recommended amount of calories to make 144?

Ariza's been on record as saying Pac could still easily make 135.

I should've known you are an idiot and wouldn't get what I said. He was weight drained at 106, severely weight drained even as a 15 year old kid he was drained at that weight... He is not at 140 or above... He was at 122 at 126 etc... You are naturally going to be healthier and therefore stronger if you don't starve yourself...Pac could still easily make 135 IMO he has never really even weighed in at 147. He was at 144 for Margarito. If you have ever starved yourself, which I highly doubt, I have a feeling you are overweight; try playing a grueling sport not eating for even a day... You wonder why people were kd cotto at 140 and not at 147 why donaire's ko ratio has gone up with his weight... If you don't know you probably will never understand.. You need an education or at least some athletic experience to understand.

[shawn12]

Why the diffrents between a fighter and boxer?
A boxer is no his front half of his foot ,or is toes for moving around.
They don't get hit much as they move out of range.but he can't knock of a fighter unless he drop back down to flat foot.

About a slugger? He flat footed so he uses all his weight in a punch it goes from his legs to his midsection out trought his arms and it's more powerful that a boxer arm punch,the draw back is a slugger get him more.
Manny is a hybrid fighter he fight like a boxer and drop down to punch and he a lefty with angle punches,that why he different.

He dropped Cotto badly 2x early in the fight. Something he didn't even do at the lower weights against elite guys.

He k.o'd Hatton in 2. He had Clottey out on his feet a few times. A guy who's tough as hell and outweighed him by 15-20 pounds.

He almost k.o'd Margarito a few times but held back.

He stopped Oscar quicker than anyone ever has.

These aren't exaggerations, these are cold hard facts.



If that's not enough for you, I got a test you can try yourself. Put on 20 to 30 pounds in the next 2 years and see if you will be as fast, athletic and strong as you are now.

Emphasis on the speed.

Try it and report back to me how your performance is affected.

[V.WEBB]

I should've known you are an idiot and wouldn't get what I said. He was weight drained at 106, severely weight drained.. He is not at 140 or above... He was at 122 at 126 etc... You are naturally going to be healthier and therefore stronger if you don't starve yourself...Pac could still easily make 135 IMO he has never really even weighed in at 147. He was at 144 for Margarito. If you have ever starved yourself, which I highly doubt, I have a feeling you are overweight; try playing a grueling sport not eating for even a day... You wonder why people were kd cotto at 140 and not at 147 why donaire's ko ratio has gone up with his weight... If you don't know you probably will never understand.. You need an education or at least some athletic experience to understand.

They've been waiting on you in this thread

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452499&page=9

[Alibata]

They've been waiting on you in this thread



http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...=452499&page=9

At least I know you know what im sayin coach. I know deep down you agree. Too lazy to jump back in that thread/

[IMDAZED]

They've been waiting on you in this thread



http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...=452499&page=9

[pistol whip]

He dropped Cotto badly 2x early in the fight. Something he didn't even do at the lower weights against elite guys.

He k.o'd Hatton in 2. He had Clottey out on his feet a few times. A guy who's tough as hell and outweighed him by 15-20 pounds.

He almost k.o'd Margarito a few times but held back.

He stopped Oscar quicker than anyone ever has.

These aren't exaggerations, these are cold hard facts.



If that's not enough for you, I got a test you can try yourself. Put on 20 to 30 pounds in the next 2 years and see if you will be as fast, athletic and strong as you are now.

Emphasis on the speed.

Try it and report back to me how your performance is affected.

They are exaggerations sorry you can spin it however you want but that exactly what they are. I mean clottey being out on his feet has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life! And even when manny was fighting at Lightweight and junior Lightweight he weighed in over 140 pounds by the time fight night came around so to say that he added 20-30 pounds in a few years is the mother of all ***ing exaggerations!