Pacquiao/Clottey only sold 20,000 tickets

[Bastian Loc]

Yeah if you mention the giant head nonsense there is no use in really discussing things with you because you are obviously not a "thinker".

I'm sorry, that made me laugh out loud.

And no I don't find it weird because for one steroids don't make you faster or more skilled the only thing they do is allow your body to recover quicker after training thats it.

Don't you think that helping you recover quicker and allowing you to train 2x as much as your opponent gives you an advantage and contributes to you getting faster and developing your skills with more frequency?

Sure it makes you stronger but when has pac shown the one punch KO power he had in the lower weights. I too would think Manny was roiding it if I exaggerated everything instead of looking at what is really happeneing in the ring.

In the Diaz fight, in the Hatton fight, in the Cotto fight, in the Clottey fight, in the Oscar fight and in the Margarito fight.

[shawn12]

At 30 seconds in, Michael tells the truth....

This is one of the many ways the media hypes a fighter, having you believe 50,000+ fans paid to see this man fight.
When in reality only 20,000 paid, and 30,000 were comps.

You can't deny they wanted people to believe this, because you had people on here bragging how Manny sold 50,000 tickets.
Why do they do this, and how does such an honest man like Manny allow himself to be lied on to the public without correcting it.

How much does Vagas GMG holds? only 18,000 seats.
How much did Jerry buy. 20,000
As part of holding the fight their. Can Jerry sell the tickets to onsite and tickets sellers ? Yes. How much was did Jerry give away? We don't know.
Did Jerry make money? Yes as he wanted another of manny fight.
So was it 50 thousands sold ? Yeas as part of agreement ,
Any give away would have given Jerry a return in other ways.

[Twako]

Don't you think that helping you recover quicker and allowing you to train 2x as much as your opponent gives you an advantage and contributes to you getting faster and developing your skills with more frequency?

In the Diaz fight, in the Hatton fight, in the Cotto fight, in the Clottey fight, in the Oscar fight and in the Margarito fight.

so manny has skills now? i thought you *****s see him as an unskilled but very athletic fighter?

did manny KO clottey, cotto, oscar, tony by a single punch?

[Bastian Loc]

so manny has skills now? i thought you *****s see him as an unskilled but very athletic fighter?

did manny KO clottey, cotto, oscar, tony by a single punch?

He didn't k.o Marquez, Barrera, Larios, or Morales with a single punch either.


He doesn't have skills, but being on peds affords him 2x as much time to try and become skilled than his opponents do.

And I'm not a *****.

[V.WEBB]

so manny has skills now? i thought you *****s see him as an unskilled but very athletic fighter?

did manny KO clottey, cotto, oscar, tony by a single punch?

Jack is FARRRRRRRRRRRRRR from a *****. Sad that is the crutch of the responses from *******s. You fail.

[pistol whip]

I'm sorry, that made me laugh out loud.




Don't you think that helping you recover quicker and allowing you to train 2x as much as your opponent gives you an advantage and contributes to you getting faster and developing your skills with more frequency?




In the Diaz fight, in the Hatton fight, in the Cotto fight, in the Clottey fight, in the Oscar fight and in the Margarito fight.

Hand speed and reaction time is just something thats god given nothing steroids are gonna do to help u there. And one punch KO power in the Clotty, margarito, and ODLH fights? Ugh he didn't knock any of them down did you watch the fights? And Diaz was a LW why is he being lumped in with Welterweights?

Like I said exagerrate everything and anyone can be right!

[pistol whip]

He didn't k.o Marquez, Barrera, Larios, or Morales with a single punch either.

But he knocked them down a whole crap load of times with one punch!

[Bastian Loc]

Hand speed and reaction time is just something thats god given nothing steroids are gonna do to help u there. And one punch KO power in the Clotty, margarito, and ODLH fights? Ugh he didn't knock any of them down did you watch the fights? And Diaz was a LW why is he being lumped in with Welterweights?

Like I said exagerrate everything and anyone can be right!

He dropped Cotto badly 2x early in the fight. Something he didn't even do at the lower weights against elite guys.

He k.o'd Hatton in 2. He had Clottey out on his feet a few times. A guy who's tough as hell and outweighed him by 15-20 pounds.

He almost k.o'd Margarito a few times but held back.

He stopped Oscar quicker than anyone ever has.

These aren't exaggerations, these are cold hard facts.



If that's not enough for you, I got a test you can try yourself. Put on 20 to 30 pounds in the next 2 years and see if you will be as fast, athletic and strong as you are now.

Emphasis on the speed.

Try it and report back to me how your performance is affected.

[Alibata]

You don't think its weird that he's moved up from 106 to 150 and kept all his speed, increased his power and has gotten a giant head?

It is not weird... It be weird if he did not increase his speed power or whatever... He was weight drained most of his career... Look at when he was a feather hydrating in at close to welter... It is not weird for cotto to have better punch resistance at 147 then he did at 140 or Kahn at 140 then he did at 135. Manny too. I mean he was koed by torrecampo a nobody at a lighter weight and not by barrera or morales or marquez... He was a starved kid and has gotten to a healthy weight and fights healthy... All you guys that bring this up just talk and don't really think about what your saying or maybe just really don't know anything about making weight. that is why most don't believe manny is on peds but rather floyd is ducking manny.

[pistol whip]

Jack is FARRRRRRRRRRRRRR from a *****. Sad that is the crutch of the responses from *******s. You fail.

Well when 9 times out of 10 the ones bittching and moaning about this are *****s it's not exactly a wild assumption.