Resume, career, accomplishments: Adamek vs Haye, you decide...

[WladIsTheChamp]

Now we all know that comparing Haye vs either of the Klitschkos is laughable by any measure, unless of course you are from Cypress or East London, but what about Adamek and Haye? Who has the better resume and career accomplishments as of now?

Multi-Division Champs

Both Haye and Adamek have won belts into separate divisions. Adamek was a LHW champ and CW champ. Haye was a CW champ and "won" the HW WBA title. However Haye's champion status at HW is tainted by the fact that the only reason why he even holds the WBA belt was because the corrupt sanctioning body stripped the legitimate WBA champ of it and simply gave the belt back to Valuev without a fight. The true WBA champ was Chagaev who lost to Wladimir while he was still the WBA champ, so in effect, it is Wlad that hold the WBA belt.

Another factor is the way they won those belts. Even if you think that Valuev was the WBA title holder at the time Haye "beat" him, Haye ran for 12 rounds and barely threw 5 punches a round, hardly a decisive victory. Whereas Adamek got his belts in a decisive and without controversy.

Edge: Adamek

Number of Defenses

Adamek defended his LHW WBC title twice and his CW IBF title twice. Haye defended his CW titles once and his HW WBA title twice. That is 4 for Adamek and 3 for Haye.

Edge: Adamek

Wins - Quality of Competition

Adamek's competition is still very much relevant in their respective divisions whereas Haye's competition is retired or is on the fringe of relevance. Cunningham is still holds a belt and Chad Dawson just fought for a title against Pascal and lost but that was his only loss of his career, not bad. Haye's competition at CW and HW has been pretty much old men on the verge of retirement. The average age of Haye's HW opponents is 37 years old and at least 8 years older than him, whereas Adamek's competition has generally been younger or the same age as him. Ruiz is retired, Valuev is retired, Barrett is on the verge of retirement, so is Audley most likely.

Edge: Adamek


Losses - Manner of Losses and Quality of Opponent

Both have only one loss but Adamek's lone loss was a decision to a 26 year old unbeaten top fighter in Chad Dawson, who is still very much relevant in his division with one recent loss to Pascal. Haye on the other hand lost to a 40 year old who had 6 losses, 5 by KO, via a TKO, in a fight where he had to be hooked up to an oxygen tank afterwards.

Edge: Adamek

Clear winner - Adamek.

[Squirrel]

I'd give Haye the edge on the multi-division champ part cause he managed to unify the WBC, WBA and WBO belts in two fights, which also made him lineal champ at that weight. I regard that higher than holding one title in two different divisions.

I appreciate that Adamek has made more defences overall, but Haye does lose out on that cause he moved up to HW. It would have been good if he'd stayed and fought Cunningham tho, I admit that.

You mention that Haye's opponents went on to do nothing, but to be fair Barrett did go on to get a controvertial draw (many said he won) agaisnt Tua, who was supposed to kill him in the first round. Not only that but he was the first guy to legitimately put Tua on his ass. So he did manage to do something after his loss.

It's medical routine for any fighter that is stopped to be given oxygen, no need to mention that.


I definitely prefer Adamek's attitude (both in and out of the ring) and he's a damn good fighter (very well rounded). Although he challenges himself and fights all comers, the fact he never unified a division and has yet to pick up a HW title puts him just behind Haye for me. Skillset and attitude aren't enough to overcome titles for me.

Adamek will have a better HW career than Haye though, i'm almost certain of that.

[1believer]

Sorry but Haye cleaned out the whole cruiserweight division. The only person who you could clearly who was a better cruiser is Evander. Don't get me wrong though Adamek is good but Haye has unified the divison. Although at heavyweight is a different story altogether.

Just to add, the haye-valuev fight wasn't controversial, there wasn't as much action as people would have hoped but he clearly outlanded and outworked him.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Sorry but Haye cleaned out the whole cruiserweight division. The only person who you could clearly who was a better cruiser is Evander. Don't get me wrong though Adamek is good but Haye has unified the divison. Although at heavyweight is a different story altogether.

Cleaned out? LOL he fought Enzo and an old Mormeck. How the hell did he clean it out? Just like cleaned out the HW of old retired bums?

[The Hammer]

Tomasz Adamek is better in every way than Haye: he's a better fighter with a better resume, and obviously he's more of a ring warrior.

He's a better sportsman too. You don't see Tomasz hitting his opponents when they're down and resorting to illegal rabbit punches the way Haye does.

[WladIsTheChamp]

I'd give Haye the edge on the multi-division champ part cause he managed to unify the WBC, WBA and WBO belts in two fights, which also made him lineal champ at that weight. I regard that higher than holding one title in two different divisions.

I appreciate that Adamek has made more defences overall, but Haye does lose out on that cause he moved up to HW. It would have been good if he'd stayed and fought Cunningham tho, I admit that.

You mention that Haye's opponents went on to do nothing, but to be fair Barrett did go on to get a controvertial draw (many said he won) agaisnt Tua, who was supposed to kill him in the first round. Not only that but he was the first guy to legitimately put Tua on his ass. So he did manage to do something after his loss.

It's medical routine for any fighter that is stopped to be given oxygen, no need to mention that.


I definitely prefer Adamek's attitude (both in and out of the ring) and he's a damn good fighter (very well rounded). Although he challenges himself and fights all comers, the fact he never unified a division and has yet to pick up a HW title puts him just behind Haye for me. Skillset and attitude aren't enough to overcome titles for me.

Adamek will have a better HW career than Haye though, i'm almost certain of that.

So you are saying Barrett is still relevant at all in the HW division because he managed to knock down an old Tua who was never even a world champ to being with? The Barrett that Wlad destroyed 10 years ago? LOL

Not one single fighter that Haye fought at HW is relevant anymore one could say they weren't even relevant when Haye fought them.

[1believer]

Cleaned out? LOL he fought Enzo and an old Mormeck. How the hell did he clean it out? Just like cleaned out the HW of old retired bums?

then please name to me the fighters who he should have fought at cruiserweight to clean out the division then.

[Squirrel]

So you are saying Barrett is still relevant at all in the HW division because he managed to knock down an old Tua who was never even a world champ to being with? The Barrett that Wlad destroyed 10 years ago? LOL

Not one single fighter that Haye fought at HW is relevant anymore one could say they weren't even relevant when Haye fought them.

Where did I say he was more relevant? You stated all his opponents went on to do nothing, I merely mentioned that wasn't strictly the case.

And let's be honest here, the only guy Adamek has fought at HW who's even remotely likely to be relevant is Arreola. Which says a lot.

[The Hammer]

Sorry but Haye cleaned out the whole cruiserweight division. The only person who you could clearly who was a better cruiser is Evander. Don't get me wrong though Adamek is good but Haye has unified the divison. Although at heavyweight is a different story altogether.

Haye cherry-picked old (Fragomeni, Thompson) and glass-chinned (Maccarinelli, Gurov) cruiserweights.


He avoided slick (Cunningham) young/tough (Wlodarczyk, Huck) and difficult to KO (Arslan, Adamek, Jones) cruiserweights.

[Squirrel]

Haye cherry-picked old (Fragomeni, Thompson) and glass-chinned (Maccarinelli, Gurov) cruiserweights.


He avoided slick (Cunningham) young/tough (Wlodarczyk, Huck) and difficult to KO (Arslan, Adamek, Jones) cruiserweights.

But he did, however, pick up the WBC/WBA/WBO titles (becomming lineal champ). Which is an accomplishment. Literally a textbook, written on paper, for the records accomplishment.