Resume, career, accomplishments: Adamek vs Haye, you decide...

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  • jrosales13
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    #21
    Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
    Did you watch the fight? There was nothing controvertial about Adamek's win over Cunningham, it was a clear win for Adamek. It's only biased to you because you are a fan of Haye (I don't know why) still, but like you said, everything I said was true in my post.
    I did watch the fight and I repeat I like Adamek more than I like Haye.

    Cunningham won the majority of the rounds. But, Adamek scored the knockdowns that gave him the edge in the decision. Am I lying? Did you watch the fight?

    Yes it is a bias post cuz' you didn't mention anything negative towards Adamek at all. Like him winning a vacant title over Paul Briggs was bogus. Tarver got stripped for fighting a beat tougher fighter in Glen Johnson instead of Briggs. And, the Briggs fight was a competitive fight for Adamek.

    Again all the categories might still edge Adamek. I don't know cuz' I haven't really compared them. But, the point is that yes your post was very bias. You mentioned nothing negative about Adamek.

    And, again you can say I'm a Haye fan all you want. In reality I like Adamek more. However, I'm just not bias with my ****.

    But, again looking at your name what could we expect right? This is the HW version of Floyd and Pac. Where if you a Floyd fan you shit on everything that Pac does and if you Pac fan you shit on everything Floyd does. Same thing between Klitschko fans and Haye fan.

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    • WladIsTheChamp
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      #22
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I did watch the fight and I repeat I like Adamek more than I like Haye.

      Cunningham won the majority of the rounds. But, Adamek scored the knockdowns that gave him the edge in the decision. Am I lying? Did you watch the fight?

      Yes it is a bias post cuz' you didn't mention anything negative towards Adamek at all. Like him winning a vacant title over Paul Briggs was bogus. Tarver got stripped for fighting a beat tougher fighter in Glen Johnson instead of Briggs. And, the Briggs fight was a competitive fight for Adamek.

      Again all the categories might still edge Adamek. I don't know cuz' I haven't really compared them. But, the point is that yes your post was very bias. You mentioned nothing negative about Adamek.

      And, again you can say I'm a Haye fan all you want. In reality I like Adamek more. However, I'm just not bias with my ****.

      But, again looking at your name what could we expect right? This is the HW version of Floyd and Pac. Where if you a Floyd fan you shit on everything that Pac does and if you Pac fan you shit on everything Floyd does. Same thing between Klitschko fans and Haye fan.
      We must have been watching a different fight then because Adamek clearly won that fight. I guess we'll agree to disagree then. One thing that we probably agree on 100% though is that Goral has balls and Gayevid doesn't.

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        #23
        Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
        We must have been watching a different fight then because Adamek clearly won that fight. I guess we'll agree to disagree then. One thing that we probably agree on 100% though is that Goral has balls and Gayevid doesn't.
        We not even disagreing in that part really. You just not getting what I'm saying.

        I can say it slowly cuz' I'm typing. I mean I can type it slowly but that won't help.

        Cunningham won more rounds.

        However, Adamek scored 3 knockdowns which gave him the decision.

        Not saying he didn't win that fight(I scored it for Adamek BTW but it was close). Just saying stuff like that you should mention when you doing a career comparison between 2 individuals.

        You just saying everything negative about Haye. Like if he has never accomplished anything but at the same time you not holding Adamek to those same standards.

        Which makes it very bias.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Squirrel
          But he did, however, pick up the WBC/WBA/WBO titles (becomming lineal champ). Which is an accomplishment. Literally a textbook, written on paper, for the records accomplishment.
          dude, seriously don't waste your time debating on threads like this... it's full of klitschko obsessed haye haters... the thread was created by someone with the username 'vladisthechamp' ffs.... they all hate haye so much because he talked nasty about their mighty king, they can't acknowledge any of his achievements.

          i think adameks a good fighter, but it's pointless debating this because they will give haye absolutely no credit whatsoever.... the guy has even we-rote history by saying he avoided huck, guillermo jones etc... haye would have knocked them all out at CW if he stayed there.

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            #25
            Originally posted by apollocreed
            dude, seriously don't waste your time debating on threads like this... it's full of klitschko obsessed haye haters... the thread was created by someone with the username 'vladisthechamp' ffs.... they all hate haye so much because he talked nasty about their mighty king, they can't acknowledge any of his achievements.

            i think adameks a good fighter, but it's pointless debating this because they will give haye absolutely no credit whatsoever.... the guy has even we-rote history by saying he avoided huck, guillermo jones etc... haye would have knocked them all out at CW if he stayed there.
            Unfortunately that is all you Gayevid fans have - "would have, could have, should have". He didn't, just like he isn't facing a Klitschko. When you look at Gayevid' accomplishments at CW, he doesn't even rank in the top 10 CW of all time, and the CW division is young as hell. He is barely even a blip on the HW record books.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
              Unfortunately that is all you Gayevid fans have - "would have, could have, should have". He didn't, just like he isn't facing a Klitschko. When you look at Gayevid' accomplishments at CW, he doesn't even rank in the top 10 CW of all time, and the CW division is young as hell. He is barely even a blip on the HW record books.
              But, you mentioning guys really he should not had fought at the time to be fair. I mean nobody was clamoring for those fights. The only fighter that anybody could really mention that Haye should have fought was against Cunningham. If he would have beaten Cunningham he would have cleaned out the division. But, since he never faced Cunningham, then nobody can say he cleaned out the division.

              But, all the other names you mentioned. Is just you nitpicking, being a bias hater.

              And, can you tell me who your top 10 CW of all time is.

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                #27
                Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                Unfortunately that is all you Gayevid fans have - "would have, could have, should have". He didn't, just like he isn't facing a Klitschko. When you look at Gayevid' accomplishments at CW, he doesn't even rank in the top 10 CW of all time, and the CW division is young as hell. He is barely even a blip on the HW record books.
                Post your top 10 CW of all time.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  But, you mentioning guys really he should not had fought at the time to be fair. I mean nobody was clamoring for those fights. The only fighter that anybody could really mention that Haye should have fought was against Cunningham. If he would have beaten Cunningham he would have cleaned out the division. But, since he never faced Cunningham, then nobody can say he cleaned out the division.

                  But, all the other names you mentioned. Is just you nitpicking, being a bias hater.

                  And, can you tell me who your top 10 CW of all time is.
                  Off the top of my head Holyfield, Toney, Jirov, Hide, Adamek, Gomez, Bell, Mormeck, Hill, Maske. Mormeck was kind off shot when Gayevid beat him.

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                  • WladIsTheChamp
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Squirrel
                    Post your top 10 CW of all time.
                    Just did and that wasn't without any long thought, I am sure if I started to look at BoxRec I could pull up a bunch more names based on accomplishments. I really don't watch the CW much, most if it because the fights are not shown here in the US since most of them are European.

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                    • Squirrel
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                      Off the top of my head Holyfield, Toney, Jirov, Hide, Adamek, Gomez, Bell, Mormeck, Hill, Maske. Mormeck was kind off shot when Gayevid beat him.
                      Um .. no Carlos De Leon or Johnny Nelson?

                      I honestly wouldn't put Toney in; his win over Jirov isn't enough for that imo.

                      Where would you rank Braithewaite?

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