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  • #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Too many excuses here. Pac is candidate for the GOAT because of what hes done. So he must be no1 on the strenghth of what people think hes done.

    FLoyd has to beat Pac to be no1, simple as. If floyd dont want to do it that way. He has to beat people either better than Pac beats people or beat some threats. He didnt do it against COtto, Margarito and SSM when he had the chance. So how can you defend him in that he should be no1 in not fighting people?
    I can't believe the type of crap that comes out of most of you
    Pac fans mouths. Floyd came back and beat the #2 P4P fighter
    "Marquez" coming off of a fight of the year performance and then
    fought and beat Shane Mosley who prior, dominated Margarito and
    was considered the best fighter at 147 and #1WW, WBA champion.
    When was the last time Pac fought a fighter coming off of a dominate
    win, was ranked highly on the P4P list or fighters who were coming off
    of a win? Floyd has to beat guys better than Pac did? Pac fought
    2 guys Floyd beat over a year prior and now he will fight another
    (Mosley) who is coming off of a one sided beat down from Floyd
    and a boring draw with Mora. The more I read posts on here, the
    more I see how ignorant and jaded most of you are.

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    • #42
      Mayweather beating Manny would NOT make him #1 P4P. Mayweather has to beat Martinez.

      Manny beating Mayweather would make him P4P #1.

      In reality Mayweather's toughest challenge for anyone honest with themselves and Manny's recent career "choices" would not make Mayweather P4P#1. It would only give Mayweather his highest payday to date.

      Martinez is the man to beat for Mayweather.

      We all know Manny, his team, and his fans want no part of Martinez.

      Floyd's fans want a real challenge. And it's Martinez. Not the honest Congroidsman.

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      • #43
        Holyfeild is saying that Pacquiao is Number one cause hes the one willing to take a drug test and fight while Mayweather wont pick up the phone from anyone from top rank. Martinez isn't even anywhere near Pacquiaos level and if he were willing to fight Pac at 147 he would get ktfo but at least he would make more in that fight than in his entire career.

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        • #44
          holyfield knows a coward will never be #1...

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          • #45
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            Technically Floyd left the #1 spot to Pac. Manny never beat Floyd
            for it. In my opinion Martinez is above both of them because neither
            is trying to get in the ring with him. The Wlad/Haye argument is valid
            because David Haye needs to beat one of the Klit brothers. Floyd
            fought Mosley who was the #1 WW at the time and ranked in the
            P4P rankings. Who has Pac fought of recent that was ranked higher
            than Mosley at WW? Holyfield fought all the big names and tough
            fighters so I can live with him saying this.
            Obviously Klit brothers should be number 1 because Martinez doesn't want to fight them. You don't believe me go interview Martinez if he wants to fight the brothers.

            This is a flawed logic my friend.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by punchmehard View Post
              Obviously Klit brothers should be number 1 because Martinez doesn't want to fight them. You don't believe me go interview Martinez if he wants to fight the brothers.

              This is a flawed logic my friend.
              How is it flawed logic when Manny, Floyd and Martinez are the top
              3 fighters in the sport right now?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by ivan49 View Post
                mayweather will do better, he will demand 144 catch weight vs holyfield, but will come in at 146.

                he will trash talk him, but last minute will beat up his ex to make sure the fight wont materialize.
                Yeah, but like Holy...Pac might change his name to Mansard Pedquiao and make Holy come in at 145 or 151, avoid a rematch like he did against guys who ko'd him like Torrecampo, Singsurat and if a third fight materializes...he'll demand a 18 day cutoff which means that those rematches will never happen.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                  Holyfeild is saying that Pacquiao is Number one cause hes the one willing to take a drug test and fight while Mayweather wont pick up the phone from anyone from top rank. Martinez isn't even anywhere near Pacquiaos level and if he were willing to fight Pac at 147 he would get ktfo but at least he would make more in that fight than in his entire career.
                  Garbage posts like this make Manny look bad because none of it is
                  true. Manny walked away from the first negotiations and later told
                  Kahn he is not mentally ready to take the OST's. Manny Pacquiao
                  has Martinez's title that Sergio had to vacate. Manny fought Margarito
                  (Who wasn't ranked) for the title which is a 154LB title but Manny won
                  it at 151 (catchweight). Martinez said he would come down to 154 to
                  fight Manny for it and even put his middleweight title on the line and
                  Manny still refused, saying Sergio is too big but Margarito outweighed
                  Manny by like 17LBs. You need to know your boxing and stop being
                  a Pac cheerleader.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    I can't believe the type of crap that comes out of most of you
                    Pac fans mouths. Floyd came back and beat the #2 P4P fighter
                    "Marquez" coming off of a fight of the year performance
                    and then
                    fought and beat Shane Mosley who prior, dominated Margarito and
                    was considered the best fighter at 147 and #1WW, WBA champion.
                    When was the last time Pac fought a fighter coming off of a dominate
                    win, was ranked highly on the P4P list or fighters who were coming off
                    of a win?
                    Floyd has to beat guys better than Pac did? Pac fought
                    2 guys Floyd beat over a year prior and now he will fight another
                    (Mosley) who is coming off of a one sided beat down from Floyd
                    and a boring draw with Mora. The more I read posts on here, the
                    more I see how ignorant and jaded most of you are.
                    So Hatton wasnt coming off a dominating win against Paul mallignagi, and Cotto was coming off a good run of wins, against highly rated opponents as well. Who did JMM beat at WW that you give Floyd so much praise for beating? Floyds win over SSM was good, but his fight against Mora puts things into perspective. So does Cottos win at 154lb. Cotto does great and SSM not so great.

                    Pac is no1 and floyd is no2. That is not so bad. Stop cheerleading Floyd. Get him in the ring to fight and beat pac. How easy is that. Floyd thinks he could beat Pac easy supposedly.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                      Holyfeild is saying that Pacquiao is Number one cause hes the one willing to take a drug test and fight while Mayweather wont pick up the phone from anyone from top rank. Martinez isn't even anywhere near Pacquiaos level and if he were willing to fight Pac at 147 he would get ktfo but at least he would make more in that fight than in his entire career.
                      Why would Martinez fight Pac at 147??? WTF lol...

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