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  • Russian Crushin
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    #11
    Originally posted by BostonGuy
    I think Atlas has one of the best insights into the fight game, as evidenced by his expert commentary on FNF's. When I watch a fight he's calling, he always points out things that an average boxing fan might not see. I'm surprised with all his experience and knowledge that he can't cut it as a trainer...
    Nah he throws people off with some of his stuff

    He almost always picks the underdog to win, just to say "i told you so" if it happens

    Then yesterday he scores the Ruslan fight as 116-112 for Ruslan

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      #12
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Nah he throws people off with some of his stuff

      He almost always picks the underdog to win, just to say "i told you so" if it happens

      Then yesterday he scores the Ruslan fight as 116-112 for Ruslan
      I had Ruslan winning as well by 2 points. He was the aggressor, landed the heavy punches, and was busier.

      But I'll agree about his predictions, they can be pretty absurd. He used to always pick against Wladimir Klitschko no matter who he was facing. It got to the point where it was just kind of ridiculous.

      However, when he is calling a fight, he sees things that the average viewer does not see. If a fighter is dropping his hands or doing something that is fundamentally flawed Atlas always will notice it. He has a knack for that.

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        #13
        Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
        povetkin needs to up his game
        Most definitely.

        He's not getting any younger, he needs to step up this year.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Scott9945
          Another training job for Atlas that ends badly.

          One of the most overrated trainers ever.
          Who rates him highly? It sure as hell isn't anyone on this board.

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            #15
            America > Germany

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              #16
              Originally posted by BostonGuy
              Atlas always speaks out and criticizes when fighters are fed soft opposition midway through their respective careers. Yet, that is in fact the case with what he's doing with Povetkin. Since he's been with Povetkin, Alexander has only fought journeyman and has not faced any credible contenders. I think that this has done a disservice to Povetkin and has affected his confidence.

              As for your post, yes, Povetkin needs to step up his game in his next fight...
              When a fighter's confidence is shot it's extremely difficult to recover. Povetkin always struck me as a bit flaky, and was unwilling to face Wlad even before Atlas became his trainer. At this point in time I think it's extremely unlikely we'll ever see him get in the ring with Wlad unless he's forced to. And that won't be until 2012 at the earliest.

              As for him stepping up his fight game, again that's going to be difficult since he's been mollycoddled so much lately. Whoever takes over from Atlas is going to have to treat Povetkin like an amateur again, because at this point in time I doubt he's anywhere near ready for a top ten fighter. His regression has been shocking.

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                #17
                Originally posted by It's Ovah
                When a fighter's confidence is shot it's extremely difficult to recover. Povetkin always struck me as a bit flaky, and was unwilling to face Wlad even before Atlas became his trainer. At this point in time I think it's extremely unlikely we'll ever see him get in the ring with Wlad unless he's forced to. And that won't be until 2012 at the earliest.

                As for him stepping up his fight game, again that's going to be difficult since he's been mollycoddled so much lately. Whoever takes over from Atlas is going to have to treat Povetkin like an amateur again, because at this point in time I doubt he's anywhere near ready for a top ten fighter. His regression has been shocking.
                I think he is just waiting for the Klits to leave and then pursue a championship

                Take the klits out of the pic and Povetkin is prime to take over(and Boytsov i believe)

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                  I think he is just waiting for the Klits to leave and then pursue a championship

                  Take the klits out of the pic and Povetkin is prime to take over(and Boytsov i believe)
                  I don't think so. Povs fight with Chambers back in 2008 was pretty competitive till Chambers gassed out, and since that time Chambers has improved whilst Povs has regressed. As for Boytsov he's another one who needs to step up his game. For me, Adamek, Chambers and Haye are the three best fighters after the Klits, with maybe Solis entering the picture if he can sort his weight out. Pulev looks like one to watch as well.

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