Has Wladamir Klitschko gone down in your estimation?

[nomadman]

Who really cares anyway. The HW division as a whole is insignificant. The more I think about it Wlad/Haye would be boring anyway. I wanna see Haye/Vitaly more. Vit would force Haye to fight.

Aside from the hype and the exctiement of the build up (which is a product of good advertising and falsely raised expectations) I can't see it being anything other than a one-sided bore, with maybe one good (ie competitive) round in the first, and a slow-sustained beatdown the rest of the way. In other words, Lewis vs Tyson II, but with a lot more posturing and unwillingness to engage.

[ny123]

It was Haye not Wlad who turned down the July 2 fight.

As I asked in another thread, why does he have to fight his mandatory if Wlad fights Chisora but not fight him if he doesn't fight Chisora? That makes absolutely no sense.

And Klitschko has fought two opponents that close before . . it was awhile back, but he fought Wolfgramm and then just over a month later fought David Bostice. Fighting a month or two apart used to be very commonplace when fighters actually "fought" for a living.

And Vitali fought Johnson nine weeks after Arreola.

Haye is a master of self-promotion and apparently has convinced some Brits he actually wants to fight a Klitschko. But he's only played his cards cunningly and clearly has no intention to. From his self-imposed retirement to his ruckus over Wlad fighting a no-hoper, it seems clear to me Haye is the one here doing the flagrant ducking.

Because the WBA gave Haye permission to postpone his mandatory for a unification fight. It's not a guaranteed unification fight if Wlad fights Chisora (because he could lose) before Haye. So the WBA are forcing Haye to fight his mandatory.

I would like to see some sort of article that say's the WBA would strip Haye or make him fight his mandatory if Wlad takes a Chisora fight. I think this would end this debate of who ducked who in this situation.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

Not really. I think he'd fight Haye after his stated retirement date. Wlad's just ****ing him around because he knows Haye wants to retire on the payday.

[Kevin Malone]

Gone down on who? Vitali?

[ny123]

Gone down on who? Vitali?

imo even at this stage of his career Vitaly is better then Wlad and most opponents would rather fight the chinny Wlad instead of Vitaly.

[Kevin Malone]

I guess I'm the only one with his mind in the gutter...

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

I don't know when Haye's birthday is, but let's say it's 15th October. I bet Wlad would fight him on 16th October.

[ny123]

I guess I'm the only one with his mind in the gutter...

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[nomadman]

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