Has Wladamir Klitschko gone down in your estimation?

**Rick Grimes** · 01-08-2011, 08:29 PM

Vitali is now the #1 HW, Wlad is a *****.

**-PANDA-** · 01-08-2011, 08:31 PM

vitali always was better than his brother

his professional boxing record proves that much

**Joeyzagz** · 01-08-2011, 08:33 PM

Shameless ducker.

This chinny bastard needed an entire army of fighters to beat the sh.t out of Sam Peter before he agreed to a rematch.

Wlad is not even top 50 HW IMO.

**Uturn** · 01-08-2011, 08:34 PM

Not really, never a big fan of Wladimar. I do however like to route for Vitali, I believe he'll fight pretty much anyone in any era, he was born to fight.

**MuckMuck** · 01-08-2011, 08:41 PM

Not at all. Haye is the one that should go down a few notches for fighting an over the hill Harrison and then fixing the fight! How has anybody not made this an issue? He actually fixed that fight. He told his family to place bets on a 3rd round knockout and is clearly seen mouthing "go down" to Harrison when he scored his KO victory. That is far more egregious than Wlad fighting the #4 ranked HW in Adamek.

**Hayehammer** · 01-08-2011, 08:47 PM

Yes i have lost some respect for wlad! I really thought he takes on anyone to prove hes the best!
Anyway i always rated vitali higher than him and this wont change!
Vitali is the Number 1 Heavyweight!

**The Hammer** · 01-08-2011, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by Smee

As much as i wanted Wlad to fight Haye, i am angered that he has not, it makes him look very bad.

It was Haye not Wlad who turned down the July 2 fight.

As I asked in another thread, why does he have to fight his mandatory if Wlad fights Chisora but not fight him if he doesn't fight Chisora? That makes absolutely no sense.

And Klitschko has fought two opponents that close before . . it was awhile back, but he fought Wolfgramm and then just over a month later fought David Bostice. Fighting a month or two apart used to be very commonplace when fighters actually "fought" for a living.

And Vitali fought Johnson nine weeks after Arreola.

Haye is a master of self-promotion and apparently has convinced some Brits he actually wants to fight a Klitschko. But he's only played his cards cunningly and clearly has no intention to. From his self-imposed retirement to his ruckus over Wlad fighting a no-hoper, it seems clear to me Haye is the one here doing the flagrant ducking.

**Allucard** · 01-08-2011, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Casual

Not really, never a big fan of Wladimar. I do however like to route for Vitali, I believe he'll fight pretty much anyone in any era, he was born to fight.

I second this. I think Vitali is much more of a warrior.

**Rick Grimes** · 01-08-2011, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by -Tunney-

As I asked in another thread, why does he have to fight his mandatory if Wlad fights Chisora but not fight him if he doesn't fight Chisora? That makes absolutely no sense.

Because the WBA gave Haye permission to postpone his mandatory for a unification fight. It's not a guaranteed unification fight if Wlad fights Chisora (because he could lose) before Haye. So the WBA are forcing Haye to fight his mandatory.

Has Wladamir Klitschko gone down in your estimation?