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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postno i get that. and i agree the poorer the boxer, the more hungrier. what i am saying tho is that american standards of nutrition are higher than those found in mexico. its just a fact that leads to amercians, even mexican americans, developing bigger bodies than their mexican counterparts. even poor americans have access to food and nutrition that most mexicans dont. that doesnt make us better fighters tho. just bigger.
boxing is not about where you come from or how rich your land is. it's about intrest & talent level.....boxing is a poor mans sport. thats about all i was proving....Last edited by americanbot; 01-11-2011, 05:23 AM.
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Originally posted by americanbot View Postchina has better standerds of nutrition. but are waaay behind compared with mexico in boxing. also I've never seen a study where "mexican americans" had bigger bodies then their countrymen derectly from mexico? (As in bigger bones) I've seen studies showing that obesity was higher within mexican americans (thats to be expected) & I've seen studies showing that mexican americans were 2 inches taller then their countrymen (due to the water) mexican americans may be better off in america (vs mexicans derectly from the country) but native mexicans are a HELL of a lot better in boxing then mexican americans. so much so to the point where it's clearly noticeable. which brings me back to my point.....
boxing is not about where you come from or how rich your land is. it's about intrest & talent level.....boxing is a poor mans sport. thats about all i was proving....
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Originally posted by americanbot View Postmexicans do not dominate light flyweight.
the same 2 divisons that I knew already. lightweight & superflyweight. thats hardly DOMINATING THE LOWER WEIGHT DIVISIONS AS ONE PERSON ORIGINALLY CLAIMED (the lower weight divisions start at welterweight and on down)
wow
LOOOOOOOL
From lighweights down to minimum weight we have champions and interim champs that 9 divisions 3 of them we totally dominate hekk banta we have Montiel with two major belts and Mares with an IBO belt
By the way we dominate but it is not a total domination either we are more domiant than any other country in the lower weights but three out of 11 lower divisions who can say that
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postok, u look at all of the bigger mexican boxers. odlh/ortiz/rios/arreola/margarito. all of those guys are mexican americans. and once again ill say it. it has everything to do with size and nothing to do with skill. nutrition is a very important determinant on how big/tall you have the ability to grow along with genetics. studies have proven this time and time again. why do you thing americans on average are bigger than ppl from most, if not all, third world countries? oh yea, and china's nutrition standards are not that great and they are def not that much better than mexico unless you come from a well off family, in which case u probably wouldnt be boxing anyways. so thats false.
arreola is fat. margarito isn't mexican american to me....DLH isn't big....but ortiz is big for his weight class. same goes for *sal alverez* & he's a native mexican. rios is just kinda chubby. i have never seen a study that showed that mexican americans have bigger overall bodies then native mexicans (unless you are talking about obesity wise) you would have to post that specific study so that i can see what it is you're talking about. also it boils more down to genetics. a lot of it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with nutrition's. its more about whats in your genetic code. (nutrition can only help) but about 70% of size & height has almost everything to do with your genetic code (your family)
post your studies...
"about 60 to 80 percent of the difference in height between individuals is determined by genetic factors, whereas 20 to 40 percent can be attributed to environmental effects, mainly nutrition. This answer is based on estimates of the "heritability" of human height: the proportion of the total variation in height due to genetic factors."
70% of it has to do with personal genetics....
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...f-human-heightLast edited by americanbot; 01-11-2011, 07:54 AM.
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Originally posted by Chaconlittlered View PostSegura and Solis would dominate alone in that weight who the hell has better boxers in that weight class
From lighweights down to minimum weight we have champions and interim champs that 9 divisions 3 of them we totally dominate hekk banta we have Montiel with two major belts and Mares with an IBO belt
By the way we dominate but it is not a total domination either we are more domiant than any other country in the lower weights but three out of 11 lower divisions who can say thatLast edited by americanbot; 01-11-2011, 07:55 AM.
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Originally posted by americanbot View Posti like Roman Gonzalez & the one Japanese kid at that weight. I am really big on gonzalez....gonzalez is from Nicaragua. also i don't care how many titles you can show me because we all know every & anyone can have a title...we must get down to the specifics...but as a gift i will give you that division (although mexicans are not domentating the division) & my number 1 guy in it is gonzalez. but anyway thats 3 out of 11. how does that match up to dominating the lower weights???
In Banta you have Montiel who beat the top dog in Hasegawa
Mares,Young Prospects Christian Esquivel Jesus Ruiz Alejandro Hernandez David De la Mora Hugo Ruiz Jose Salgado Leo Santa Cruz Jose Cayetano Carlos Cuadras Arturo Badillo
Mexican arent dominating but are dominant
3 out of 11 aint bad we have many new comer and veteran in those we dont dominate how i can say Mexican dominate the lower weights number of champions we dominate 3 out of 11 Divisions have a strong presence in the Bantas super feather feather fly and minimum weight
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Originally posted by americanbot View Posttotally off topic debate but I'll argue it anyway lmao
arreola is fat. margarito isn't mexican american to me....DLH isn't big....but ortiz is big for his weight class. same goes for *sal alverez* & he's a native mexican. rios is just kinda chubby. i have never seen a study that showed that mexican americans have bigger overall bodies then native mexicans (unless you are talking about obesity wise) you would have to post that specific study so that i can see what it is you're talking about. also it boils more down to genetics. a lot of it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with nutrition's. its more about whats in your genetic code. (nutrition can only help) but about 70% of size & height has almost everything to do with your genetic code (your family)
post your studies...
"about 60 to 80 percent of the difference in height between individuals is determined by genetic factors, whereas 20 to 40 percent can be attributed to environmental effects, mainly nutrition. This answer is based on estimates of the "heritability" of human height: the proportion of the total variation in height due to genetic factors."
70% of it has to do with personal genetics....
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...f-human-height
there were Chicanos and Paisa (mexican born) most of the Chicanos had at least 2 to 5 inches on some of those homies i dont know what it is but there is something in the water im 6'3 most mexican born i have come across are at least 5'8 of course there are taller mexican born but Chicanos seems more bigger and taller but them little homies can fight
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Originally posted by theplayerpimp View PostMan who the *** invited you to the party what you standing up for your daddy the US?
And yeah i know i cant have my way that is my point that we arent naturally big just like most americans arent naturally small hence they dominate the higher weight you dumbs ass. Dont get me started on pr which just has 3 champs haha. O yeah i forgot u guys are a small island and this and that haha all excuses.
But let me ask you something. If Mexico is so dominating. How come we have the biggest rivalry in boxing. You guys outnumber us in every weight class by more than 70%. Yet have just a few more wins.
We might CURRENTLY have 3 champs. Just like u said pendejo.
You talk about MArquez and Montiel like they are invincible. Calderon skills>>> their skills.
Lets see if segura can do half the things Calderon did. But you guys dont like Calderon , because he is not a trypical face first mexican warrior. GTFO
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Originally posted by Chaconlittlered View PostRoman Gonzalez is an awsome fighter i agree and Giovanni Segura fight would be the shiiiit but that just one dude Segura and Solis to me are the top dogs then Gonzalez yet there Jose rodriguez and Adrian Hernandez , Luis Ceja, Juan Kantun Pedro Guevara young prospect and very talented also former champs like Omar Nino Romero Ramon Garcia.
In Banta you have Montiel who beat the top dog in Hasegawa
Mares,Young Prospects Christian Esquivel Jesus Ruiz Alejandro Hernandez David De la Mora Hugo Ruiz Jose Salgado Leo Santa Cruz Jose Cayetano Carlos Cuadras Arturo Badillo
Mexican arent dominating but are dominant
3 out of 11 aint bad we have many new comer and veteran in those we dont dominate how i can say Mexican dominate the lower weights number of champions we dominate 3 out of 11 Divisions have a strong presence in the Bantas super feather feather fly and minimum weight
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