Haye not in top 50 according to the RING

[Pirao]

Of course Wlad and Vitali are going to be ranked higher at the moment than Haye. I'm sure all Haye fans realise that.

Doesn't mean Haye won't knock them out though does it?

If Haye is so poor, I don't understand why Wlad wouldn't want to finish the Haye saga once and for all. If it so much of a mismatch, why not come to England, make a hell of a lot of money, and knock out Haye infront of his home crowd. What is stopping Wlad?

More like what is stopping Haye. Wlad agreed to fight Chisora on april and then Haye on july 2nd, all Haye had to do was sign, yet he refused to do it. Is Haye scared that Wlad will KO two brits in 9 weeks or something?

[PrinceNaz88]

More like what is stopping Haye. Wlad agreed to fight Chisora on april and then Haye on july 2nd, all Haye had to do was sign, yet he refused to do it. Is Haye scared that Wlad will KO two brits in 9 weeks or something?

Haye agreed to every demand.

Again, why is Wlad scared to fight in England? Surely, he would get the most satisfaction beating Haye in his own backyard?

[Pirao]

Haye agreed to every demand.

Again, why is Wlad scared to fight in England? Surely, he would get the most satisfaction beating Haye in his own backyard?

No he didn't, Wlad offered to fight him on July 2nd, and Haye didn't sign, it's that simple. Is Haye afraid of fighting in Germany? You see, Wlad can fight wherever the **** he wants, because he's the champion, he calls the shots, yet he agreed to give Haye 50-50 and fight on the date Haye wanted, yet Haye didn't sign, why is that? Why did he pull out of fights with the Klitschkos 2 times before? How many top 10 HWs has Haye beaten?

[The Hammer]

Tunney must of done that list lol

No.

I would have ranked Tomasz Adamek much higher. Doug Fischer has him at #9.

But Haye and his nuthuggers believe he's accomplished more at heavyweight than the Klitschkos, and the Ring P4P list correctly indicates that he has not.

[PrinceNaz88]

No he didn't, Wlad offered to fight him on July 2nd, and Haye didn't sign, it's that simple. Is Haye afraid of fighting in Germany? You see, Wlad can fight wherever the **** he wants, because he's the champion, he calls the shots, yet he agreed to give Haye 50-50 and fight on the date Haye wanted, yet Haye didn't sign, why is that? Why did he pull out of fights with the Klitschkos 2 times before? How many top 10 HWs has Haye beaten?

You think Wlad is seriously gonna fight April 30th, July 2nd and probably September against Adamek? Not going to happen.

I agree Wlad holds more belts so should call a lot of the shots. I just don't understand why he won't fight Haye in England in May/June time for more money. As for 50/50, that is very generous of Wlad considering Haye will bring approx 3 times more money to the table.

You seem to think I have an opinion that Haye is an ATG? He has hardly done anything at heavyweight yet. I do however, have the opinion that Haye is the biggest threat out there to Wlad.

[Jeff Da Maori]

It was a typo, and totally irrelevant to the thread. What was I trying to get away with, according to you? I've opened this thread to show how everyone who knows his **** about boxing knows that Wlad and Vitali are much better than Gaye, and Wlad's next opponent after Chisora is ranked higher than your hero as well, looks like I got away with what I wanted to prove huh?

Congratulations. You made an incredibly tedious post and like the rest of the ******ed nuthuggers on here, seem to think that little things like this somehow proves the superiority of a fighter.

[Pirao]

You think Wlad is seriously gonna fight April 30th, July 2nd and probably September against Adamek? Not going to happen.

I agree Wlad holds more belts so should call a lot of the shots. I just don't understand why he won't fight Haye in England in May/June time for more money. As for 50/50, that is very generous of Wlad considering Haye will bring approx 3 times more money to the table.

You seem to think I have an opinion that Haye is an ATG? He has hardly done anything at heavyweight yet. I do however, have the opinion that Haye is the biggest threat out there to Wlad.

Of course not, the Adamek fight was announced after negotations with Haye fell off. I do believe however, that Wlad would have fought both in april and in july. And if he pulled out of the fight, Haye could then have pointed his finger at him and everybody would be behind him, but instead what did Haye do? He didn't sign.

Haye brings 3 times more money to the table? My, my, someone is drinking the Haye/Booth kool aid.

His biggest threat right now? yes, but appareently he's too scared to fight the Klits, so...

I see that most Gaye nuthuggers are avoiding this thread like the plague, I wonder why that is? They don't have the valour to defend their hero against The RING magazine because then they would prove what jokes they are

[PrinceNaz88]

Of course not, the Adamek fight was announced after negotations with Haye fell off. I do believe however, that Wlad would have fought both in april and in july. And if he pulled out of the fight, Haye could then have pointed his finger at him and everybody would be behind him, but instead what did Haye do? He didn't sign.

Haye brings 3 times more money to the table? My, my, someone is drinking the Haye/Booth kool aid.

His biggest threat right now? yes, but appareently he's too scared to fight the Klits, so...

Germany does not have PPV TV does it? It is very hard to predict how much money would be made but Haye would certainly put more into the pot because of Sky Box Office.

With the Adamek fight, negotiations couldn't have started for that in the last day or so.

[Ryn0]

The list is ******ed, Haye might not deserve to be top 50 but Berto?

On what a loss to Collazo (or what should have been) and a win over Quintana? Pascal ahead of Hopkins especially since Hopkins has achieved 100x more than Pascal and Hopkins should've got the decision. If Haye doesn't deserve to be top 50 Cloud definately doesn't nor Pavlik who hasn't had a significant win since Taylor (who has been KO'd twice since) and lost twice.

While Haye may not deserve to be top 50 (I believe he should be if Cloud and Berto are so high) but if Haye is so low fighters with less achievements in the sport as a whole (including Hayes CW resume which is impressive, at least much more than his one significant win at HW) should be below him.

[Ryn0]

Of course not, the Adamek fight was announced after negotations with Haye fell off. I do believe however, that Wlad would have fought both in april and in july. And if he pulled out of the fight, Haye could then have pointed his finger at him and everybody would be behind him, but instead what did Haye do? He didn't sign.

Haye brings 3 times more money to the table? My, my, someone is drinking the Haye/Booth kool aid.

His biggest threat right now? yes, but appareently he's too scared to fight the Klits, so...

I see that most Gaye nuthuggers are avoiding this thread like the plague, I wonder why that is? They don't have the valour to defend their hero against The RING magazine because then they would prove what jokes they are

Unfortunately, the money claim is probably true. Haye exploded in the UK once he became a Heavyweight. His fight with Valuev did 800k PPVs in the UK with a population of 60M, plus he can sell out a stadium much like Wlad can.7

The UK general population will buy all the sky sports hype, almost everyone in the UK knows who Haye is. It's quite ridiculous since he's not done much at HW, when he was a Cruiser almost no one knew who he was despite achieving alot more.