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I remember watching that fight live and remembering what a toss up it was. I also remember being really impressed with Haye's second round knockout win, and thinking that this guy's gonna be something special. And I doubt I was the only one. A lot of Haye's initial hype came from that fight, and I still count it as one of Haye's best wins in a similar way to how I consider the Lacy fight one of Cal's best wins. No one can predict the future, and beating a highly ranked fighter who's considered a threat at the time, even if he later turns out to be not as good as was initially thought, still has to count for something in this sport. Else we end up in a Chad Dawson like situation where young up and comers only fight old established fighters, and not each other.
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Exactly. And I agree with Antonio that Valuev is over-rated. He was B-level opposition, with at best, D-level skills. The fact that Valuev knew the rudiments and learnt to fight to his strengths reasonably well, was irrelevant to much smaller skilled boxers like Haye/Chagaev/Holyfield.
But I still think that Vit is much more dangerous - for Haye - that Wlad is.
Wlad's superior technique and apparent younger legs aside, I think that Vit takes Haye's punch better than Wlad, and Vit's toughness/experience make him a much harder proposition for Haye. Also, Wlad is skittish early, and can take awhile to settle into a fight..... and that will be Haye's only opportunity against either brother imho.Comment
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Of course he has a reasonable chance at Klitschko, especially Wladimar. If we didn't think that, nobody would be calling for the fight right now. It's an intriguing bout that could potentially be very interesting due to the characteristics of both Klitschko - Haye. Many are quick to eliminate Haye beating either but we wouldn't find the situation we are all in now - Debating about this fight.
Let's not kid ourselves here, Haye has the best chance than any other current HW to beat Klitschko, even if it's a small one - but Haye is being tipped the man to beat these guys, something we haven't heard in years!
If a fight with Klitschko doesn't happen, it would be a travesty for Haye, he could have potentially been undisputed champion of the world. And even if Haye did get beat, at least the man tried, and he wouldn't find himself being ridiculed in a couple of years time for not fighting them.Comment
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Yeah i keep my fingers crossed that this bs stops and the meet in the ring soon! Come on everybody knows that chisora and adamek will be missmatches! I even think chisora vs wlad will be an very ugly fight with alot of holding leaning and so on.. but it will look more of a fight then that what adamek can offer to the klitschkos! Adamek is way to small and hasnt got the power to trouble klitschko periodComment
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Haye has mostly hyped people into believing he has the best chance to beat a Klitschko.
However, the evidence based on his last four fights (well, three, the last one was a farce/fix) is not very compelling.
I give him a very small shot at beating Wlad, and almost no chance to beat Vitali, barring V breaking his hand on Haye's face or something.
It should have been Povetkin who had the best chance to defeat a K-Bro, but he has totally self-destructed under Teddy Atlas's supervision.
Haye's ability to con large sections of the boxing public is probably the greatest talent he's shown as a heavyweight.Last edited by ChopperRead; 01-07-2011, 08:51 PM.Comment
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