Why do you write off Pascal in a rematch against Dawson ?

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  • Tiozzo
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    #11
    Originally posted by JBell11
    Cause I don't really get that.

    If we go by what we saw in the first fight, and that is the most logical thing to do if we want to predict what will happen in the rematch, here is what we came to know :

    What up Battered Kessler,
    Logically? I guess. Maybe to a casual fan who happen to witness that particular fight can conclude that the rematch would be no different. However, a person that follows the sport and seen Dawson, knows he was out of character that night. It has been reported (repeatedly) Dawson was distracted. That being said, Dawson has no excuse for his performance. It's just my opinion that if Dawson was focused he would've beaten Pascal.


    -Dawson's suspect chin is as bad as we anticipated, Pascal wobbled him many times

    I don't think his chin is suspect, I think he was caught flush with good shots that would wobble anyone.

    -Dawson couldn't pass that test of facing a man as young and as fast as himself, he did lose on all scorecards and was troubled by Pascal's handspeed

    Maybe. Pascal's hand speed wasn't really the issue in my opinion, it was Pascal's movement that didn't allow Dawson (whatever reason) to let his hands go. But he's faced "young fighters" in the past. Thomas Ademak 29 -30, (undefeated at the time)who is now, literally on the verge of being a pretty damn good heavyweight.

    -Dawson was very tentative and lame at adjusting
    I really can't comment on this, he did well against Tarver, Johnson II, and started to close in on Pascal in the later rounds. Again, I think it's more of the distractions in Chad's life. -Pascal has issues with his stamina

    -Pascal knows how to survive rough moments

    He did survive against Dawson in the later rounds, and defintely survived against Hopkins in the later rounds too. So you are right.

    -Pascal can hurt Bad Chin Dawson anytime he lands to the head

    Yeah, possibly.

    -Pascal's heart >>> Dawson's

    I disagree. I think people have a tendency to associate technically sound fighters with "running" or "dancing". Dawson is a technical fighter with good movement and speed, he is a defensive fighter. The dude may be quiet and humble but I don't think it's a question of heart.

    -At the time of the stoppage, Pascal had weathered the storm, he would have most likely went the distance without the accidental headbutt occuring

    I didn't even bring up the headbutt, but since you did, I believe the fight would've been a lot closer than what it was.

    So I don't really see how you people are all of a sudden predicting an easy Chad win so unanimously. Based on the first fight, it's ridiculous.

    Dawson is no Hopkins, and nothing that we witnessed in their first fight legitimates writing Pascal off. It is not Pascal who has something to prove, it is Dawson. Of course with Steward in his corner he has a better chance, but Pascal is still definitely a live threat to Dawson, he can still cause him problems.
    Dawson > Hopkins (of the last 5 years)
    So please explain why you all pick Dawson to win a rematch, going as far as saying he will destroy Pascal. Based on what ? That's the question.

    It's an opinion; Dawson is more talented than Pascal, talent meaning more skill and athletic ability. As I stipulated before, Dawson looked out of place; Sure Pascal did his "thing" and I am not denying that. It's just that a person can't just look "that fight". A logical person that knows the sport, would look at the bigger picture and gather all the facts and circumstances that led up to the fight. Dawson was more than capable of beating Pascal, and I believe he will the next fight, and he will do it impressively. Again just an opinion, no disrespect.
    thanks for the comment and your reasonable views


    I don't think Dawson was out of character on fight night

    Pascal's movement made him look out of character because he had never faced a fighter as mobile and fast as Pascal, so he was always forced to reset instead of punching at the moving target, something he just wouldn't do

    Dawson is used to fighting still targets, like his most recent opponents, Tarver and Johnson

    I had picked Dawson to UD Pascal, and I believe he definitely can win a rematch, but if Pascal somehow settles his stamina issue, I can see him beating Chad again

    as for his chin, he was hurt by some punches that really weren't that great, so it seems to me that Dawson's chin is just what many people suspected it was : weak

    I shouldn't have said heart : Dawson does have heart
    Dawson lacks some fire in the ring though

    picking Dawson to win the rematch like you do is alright with me, it is just the people who are completely writing Pascal off that annoy me a bit

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