Originally posted by cklmaced
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Should David Haye agree to fight Wladimir Klitschko on July 2?
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Originally posted by VAW-JR View PostOh look...Tunney red k'd me with one of his number of alts for this post above...and get this, called me racist.
There is NOTHING racist about the post above I made,
And BTW, Tunney can you answer my questions or no? And for the record, I'm not even a David Haye fan and I rarely talk about him on here.
95% of the people on boxingscene know I'm a different person than Klitschko2009/Steelhammer2011.
Only a very few really ****** people can't tell the difference.
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Would seem to me to be advantageous for Haye to fight Wlad so soon after the Chisora fight. Especially since Del Boy is a dirty fighter that's going to try and rough Wlad up on the inside anyway he can, legal or not.
Wlad fought 3 times in 2008 and would've fought 3 times in 2010 if not for the injury (2009 was screwed up because of Haye.) He'd like to fight Chisora, Haye and Adamek this year, but Haye threw a tantrum over the Chisora fight (even though Wlad owes him after pulling out with a torn abdominal.)
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Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View PostWould seem to me to be advantageous for Haye to fight Wlad so soon after the Chisora fight. Especially since Del Boy is a dirty fighter that's going to try and rough Wlad up on the inside anyway he can, legal or not.
Wlad fought 3 times in 2008 and would've fought 3 times in 2010 if not for the injury (2009 was screwed up because of Haye.) He'd like to fight Chisora, Haye and Adamek this year, but Haye threw a tantrum over the Chisora fight (even though Wlad owes him after pulling out with a torn abdominal.)
BUT Wlad cant sign to fight Haye until AFTER the Del Boy fight And Haye has been allowed to stall his mandatory ONLY ON THE CONDITION he has a Unifacation fight SIGNED which is now impossible!
He could fight Chagiev then go ahead with the Klit fight but thats very unreasonable, he'd have hardly any, even less time than Wlads already short recovery/preparation time.
OR be stripped of his belt, not an option as negotiations will change drastically and most likely the fight will fall through
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Originally posted by paulf View PostSee, this is the problem. Wlad going ahead with Chisora forces all kinds of business decisions regarding Haye's career outside of the Klitscho fight if he wants to fight July 2nd.
Originally posted by paulf View PostSo now Haye has to fight Chagaev first, and he has to fight him on free TV even though he's an established PPV fighter?
I also don't think he will fight Chagaev anyway.
1) Chagaev is too dangerous (despite of what the haters say about his last fight)
but more importantly
2) Wlad fought already Chagaev and this will allow to compare the result
Haye will pull the HepB excuse and then end up with
* James Toney, who is exactly in the age bracket that Haye fancies and who is the current IBA world champion, so Haye can claim he has 2 belts.
* or Evander Holyfield (who has also "his best days ahead of him") to add some fame-name to his record and to claim that he has fought someone the Klitschkos have ducked.
Originally posted by paulf View PostThis is the fight the public needs. There should have been no Chisoras or Chagaevs even being mentioned until this fight happened.Last edited by hweightblogger; 01-08-2011, 07:47 AM.
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Originally posted by hweightblogger View PostThat's not Wlad's problem. That's Haye's problem.
That's Haye's FAULT. He could have fought Chagaev INSTEAD of Harrison.
I also don't think he will fight Chagaev anyway.
1) Chagaev is too dangerous (despite of what the haters say about his last fight)
but more importantly
2) Wlad fought already Chagaev and this will allow to compare the result
Haye will pull the HepB excuse and then end up with
* James Toney, who is exactly in the age bracket that Haye fancies and who is the current IBA world champion, so Haye can claim he has 2 belts.
* or Evander Holyfield (who has also "his best days ahead of him") to add some fame-name to his record and to claim that he has fought someone the Klitschkos have ducked.
That's ALSO Haye's fault. Because it's Haye's sole decision that he wants to retire at 30. Otherwise Haye could sign the deal for November or so.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...n-Chagaev.html
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Originally posted by hweightblogger View PostThat's not Wlad's problem. That's Haye's problem.
That's Haye's FAULT. He could have fought Chagaev INSTEAD of Harrison.
I also don't think he will fight Chagaev anyway.
1) Chagaev is too dangerous (despite of what the haters say about his last fight)
but more importantly
2) Wlad fought already Chagaev and this will allow to compare the result
Haye will pull the HepB excuse and then end up with
* James Toney, who is exactly in the age bracket that Haye fancies and who is the current IBA world champion, so Haye can claim he has 2 belts.
* or Evander Holyfield (who has also "his best days ahead of him") to add some fame-name to his record and to claim that he has fought someone the Klitschkos have ducked.
That's ALSO Haye's fault. Because it's Haye's sole decision that he wants to retire at 30. Otherwise Haye could sign the deal for November or so.
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