Why agree a fight with Haye, then announce another fight?

[hayekoklitschko]

from what ive read an that the wba will only let it happen if its an immediate unification match, if wlad fights before it then it makes it invalid and haye has to fight chagaev or get stripped of the title...

just though maybe wlad doesnt trust haye and doesnt want to wait until july and risk haye pulling out or postponing and losing nearly a year of his career... because wladimir as angry last time about waitin months for haye and then it was cancelled.. but surely wlad cant think haye would pull out with all that money in the pot and 4 titles...plus it seems like haye really believes he can beat wlad now

[The Surgeon]

Yeah basically, that was the case based on that being both of they're next fight. Read the article and listen to the audio clip fella, made it clearer.

Wlad went away and suddenly signed for Chisora, saying Haye I'll still fight you 8 weeks later, I can't sign to fight you though, and you'll have to quickly fight someone too, to keep your belt.

Reason being, Haye was only able to duck a mandatory and be awarded this delay of July 2nd because it was a unification fight.

It seems with Wlad facing someone else and not being able to SIGN to fight Haye until after that fight (April) Haye cannot make that approach for a delay with the WBA. Afterall, he has no fight. Wlad has put himself in a position Wlad himself can't sign thus Haye would have to fight a mandatory and somehow hope 6ish weeks later Wlad would then somehow fight him.

I actually think when taken apart, it's a fairly blatant duck.

Don't get me wrong I don't mind Wlad and favour him. But it quite simply is. You would not do all this if you wanted the fight. Even now knowing its ruined it, he could scrap Chisora and sign for Haye as negotiated.

HE WON'T.

Thanx for clearing that up, seems straight forward enough Wlad has in a round about way ducked Haye, its unreasonable to expect Haye to fight so close to the biggest fight of his life especially when he usually fights like every 8months! Haye wont give up his title because then he's ****ed at negotiations plus the fight might not happen and he's left with no title either!

Wlad has crashed this fight but i dont know why, he seems to genuinely hate Haye and want to KO him, he will be a handy favourite to do it too and whatever we say the guy fights everyone and tends not to duck, why has he done this!?

Cheers again for clearing the situation up, k on the way!

[JoeKoBoxing]

Klitschko have always been sneaky, they are great with the media and when it comes to talking fights they are bastards simple as.

[Nuurzhaelan]

from what ive read an that the wba will only let it happen if its an immediate unification match, if wlad fights before it then it makes it invalid and haye has to fight chagaev or get stripped of the title...

just though maybe wlad doesnt trust haye and doesnt want to wait until july and risk haye pulling out or postponing and losing nearly a year of his career... because wladimir as angry last time about waitin months for haye and then it was cancelled.. but surely wlad cant think haye would pull out with all that money in the pot and 4 titles...plus it seems like haye really believes he can beat wlad now

Interesting point. haye did pull out of a signed contract already.

[lfc19titles]

its simple, wlad has ducked haye, he knows wba will strip haye if he waits around without a signed contract, wlad wants no part of haye at all

[Kris Silver]

Thanx for clearing that up, seems straight forward enough Wlad has in a round about way ducked Haye, its unreasonable to expect Haye to fight so close to the biggest fight of his life especially when he usually fights like every 8months! Haye wont give up his title because then he's ****ed at negotiations plus the fight might not happen and he's left with no title either!

Wlad has crashed this fight but i dont know why, he seems to genuinely hate Haye and want to KO him, he will be a handy favourite to do it too and whatever we say the guy fights everyone and tends not to duck, why has he done this!?

Cheers again for clearing the situation up, k on the way!

No worries fella, that's certainly the facts as I've seen, course I could be slightly corrected (haven't yet but welcome). But the simple fact is Wlad must have known as someone put it, this would invalidate the immediate unification rule allowing them both to fight. The WBA will strip Haye if Wlad fights, so Wlad's choosing to fight.

I'm slightly surprised too. I don't want to get into the why's as I don't mind Wlad, but this is a seriously ****ty move and he must have known would ruin the fight. So you have to question whether he wanted it. He seems to be putting hoops everywhere to try and make a deal fail, and with Haye agreeing that's called his bluff and he's get to get advanced with picking funny dates and now agreeing another fight, to scupper the Haye fight.

It's very weird indeed, and I'm sorry to say, a blatant duck imo.

Both have messed around, but this was the final straw and Wlad's done his very best to avoid it happening whilst trying in weird ways to make it appear opposite so.

[£-4-£]

Wlad is a duck.

Quack quack

[Low_ki]

The question just seems to begger an answer to me.

Why come through all those negotiation squabbles mostly put in place by him (perhaps to try to scrapper the deal earlier & blame Haye) and then without making Haye aware, suddenly announce fighting Chisora?

He had to know signing that would have the WBA stop Haye waiting until Wlad for a unification.

He had to have known it'd force Haye to sort a fight out very quickly for May, only to fight even less than the already ridiciulously short 8/9 weeks Wlad would be.

Also, Why would Wlad agree all these terms, and then sign this fight causing him to NOT BE ABLE TO SIGN TO FIGHT HAYE UNTIL AFTER APRIL??

I'm asking myself the same question. It looks like wlad may have read mayweather's guide to ducking, and if he starts slapping around hayden panettiere then for sure we know he did.

[Nuurzhaelan]

Wlad is a duck.

Quack quack

haye withdrew three times from the Klitschko brothers...once after signing the contract!

Spin it however you like, haye was the one who declared, as soon as he could, that he wanted no more to do with Wladimir. If haye wanted the fight he would let Wladimir bow out instead of being the first to whine and moan. He would also vacate his WBA belt since, if he thinks he would win, he would get Wladimir's belts after that fight.

I think both of them are to blame, but I believe haye is afraid while Wladimir is merely being contemptuous of haye.

[americanbot]

its simple. wlad is ducking.... he will be remembered as a clown when everything is said and done.

only true nut huggers are taking up for him at this point...