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  • Originally posted by Walterson View Post
    Just come upon this article and it's a very interesting read.

    Pacquiao is one of the highest weight climbers in the history of the sport, what seperates him from the rest of the weight climbers is that Pacquiao is shorter than the others and Pacquiao remained just as muscular and ripped as he climbed while the others looked softer and even fat.

    I got a list of the highest weight climbers and what % weight they put on from the time their bodies matured, a typical male body stops growing at age 21, this means your skeletal frame stops growing in height and your body is pretty much filled out by that age.

    M.A.Barrera and E.Morales matured at 122lbs, they had success up to 130lbs,a 6% weight gain for both, neither looked ripped at 130lbs…

    J.M.Marquez matured at 126 lbs, had success up to 135 lbs, a 7% weight gain, still looked pretty fit at 135lbs…

    Julio C.Chavez matured at 130 lbs, had success up to 140 lbs, an 8% weight gain, didn’t look ripped at 140lbs…

    Floyd Mayweather matured at 130lbs, had succes up to 150lbs vs DLH, a 15% weight gain, still looked fit at 150 but not ripped…

    Pernell Whittaker matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, actually had a roll of fat around his waist for his 1 fight at 154lbs…

    Roberto Duran matured at 135 lbs, had success up to 157lbs against I.Barkley, a 16% weight gain, was pudgy and even fat at this weight, even looked soft at 154lbs…

    O.DeLaHoya matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, looked normal, not ripped at 154lbs…

    S.R.Leonard matured at 147lbs, had success up to 165lbs vs D.Lalonde, a 12% weight gain, looked fit at 165…

    Thomas hearns, matured at 147lbs, had success as high as 174lbs vs V.Hill, an 18% weight gain, looked fit but not ripped at 174lbs…

    Roy Jones Jr matured at 160lbs, had success up to 193lbs vs J.Ruiz, a 21% weight gain, looked ripped at 193lbs…

    and finally there’s Manny Pacquiao, matured at 122lbs when he was 21yrs old, and has had success up to 144lbs vs M.Cotto, an 18% weight gain, looked ripped at 144lbs.

    The top % weight gainers are in order R.Jones 21%, T.Hearns 18%, M.Pacquiao 18%, R.Duran 16%, F.Mayweather 15%, O.DeLaHoya 14%, P.Whittaker 14%…..Of these 7 names Duran and Whittaker looked fat at their highest weight, ONLY Jones and Pacquiao STILL looked ripped at their highest weight, and remember that Jones was later revealed to have used steroids in his career.

    Of these 7 names Hearns was the tallest, at 6 foot 1 it’s a lot easier to put on weight, compared to Pacquiao who is the shortest of the 7 at 5 foot 6, yet Hearns and Pacquiao both put on 18% weight gains each.This is why knowledgeable people are suspecting Pacquiao of juicing, something is just not right here, a man should not gain 18% weight and stay ripped on boxing training while retaining all his speed and gaining power.

    There’s an old saying in boxing that goes ”A great big man will beat a great small man always”, Pac has broken this golden rule of boxing by losing at the lighter weights to M.Singsurat, E.Morales and (IMO)J.M.Marquez twice, these were natural 112,122 and 126lbers, and now suddenly Pac is demolishing natural 135-140lbers D.Diaz, DLH, R.Hatton and M.Cotto with ease.

    IMO Pac is on the juice, but due to UFC competition boxing needs the excitement and huge PPV buys right now, the truth will come out in the future when it doesn’t matter anymore.

    http://ringtalk.com/manny-pacquiao-steroids-3-4

    staying ripped = thats su****ious? boxers are paid, and are expected to be in tip top shape, why should Manny be the exception?

    and no he hasn't kept all his speed. how many of you actually seen his older fights? and he has lost some punching power. Before, a clean shot from his left would have wobbled a guy if not knocked him down, now he needs an accumulation of clean shots to get the job done (he hasn't knocked out a single welterweight...say something?). everything else is irrelevant.

    I'm not dis*****g your opinion (insert ur name), I just can't agree with the idiocy you claim as your reasoning....it doesn't even add up.

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    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      What's due more to workrate? Hmm?
      his tko's

      and you mentioned marquez as leverage to your theory, but marquez is 37 and has never been as ripped as pacquiao at any point of his career

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      • don't think pac is juicing at all.
        if he is, it will come to light sooner or later.
        if not, we'll be laughing at ourselves 20 years from now saying "remember when we all thought pac was juicing? bahaha"

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        • Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
          this is a load of crap. pac agreed to take tests so this discussion is basically irrelevant. Whats the topic should be is why Floyd doesnt man up to fight. Surely a smart person would understand all this gives Floyd and his father, who has shown his fear of pac an excuse to duck him without being questioned about it. When they bring up the pac fight all they do is bring up the ped card. And a lot of u fans encourage this.
          End thread right here. The Pacman has agreed to take the test
          even after every round! There's nobody else other than Floyd
          who is holding the fight right now.

          *******s just need to move on and stop responding to these
          clowns. C'mon, people. *****s won't let this thing go because
          this PED thing is all they got right now. They're obviously throlling.
          You respond, they win. There's a reason why the rest of the world
          thinks this PED thing is ******. Just go figure. I was watching 60 min
          weeks ago and expecting this PED accusations to come up. It didn't!
          Just goes to show that people are really not that ******.

          Hey, *******s. If you feel the need to respond to these obvious
          throlls, respond with one-liners!

          This guy on my sig has called Floyd a coward twice now. That's all
          you need to be reminded of.
          Last edited by al-Xander; 01-05-2011, 01:26 PM.

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          • Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
            his tko's

            and you mentioned marquez as leverage to your theory, but marquez is 37 and has never been as ripped as pacquiao at any point of his career
            How many fighters move up that many divisions and match their opponents in strength and power?

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              How many fighters move up that many divisions and match their opponents in strength and power?
              most fighters don't start fighting professionally when they're 15 years old

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              • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                most fighters don't start fighting professionally when they're 15 years old
                Yeah, that's even more damning.

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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  How many fighters move up that many divisions and match their opponents in strength and power?
                  Boston tar baby

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                  • let them sleep *******s..bogus PED is all they have against pac.

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                    • Originally posted by lone runner View Post
                      Pac is clean as a whistle.
                      True. Even if he isn't you gotta be too dumb to assume PEDs will
                      do all the work for you.

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