Why a lot of people think Pac is juicing? Look inside ...

[Buffalo]

LOL wtf.. you can add 10 pounds of muscle in 6 months clean..

you dont know **** about adding muscle..

But you lose speed with added bulk, yes or no? How many athletes you know add muscle and increase stamina?

[Mr.0pal]

So that makes him his on PED just like you saying? If that's the case Floyd Mayweather Jr. is on PED too. Because Pacquiao and Floyd both started 106 lbs in boxing.

Floyd did not go from super feather to welter in 9 months. Floyd went from super feather to welter over a 4 year time span. He had much more time to add muscle.

[Eaner0919]

So that makes him his on PED just like you saying? If that's the case Floyd Mayweather Jr. is on PED too. Because Pacquiao and Floyd both started 106 lbs in boxing.

9 months

4 years

tell me which one sounds more natural to you?

also since you are big on pics

here is Manny on March 14 2008: weight 129lbs



now here is the De La Hoya weigh in: weight 144lbs



now while he is indeed smoother in the DLH weigh in with less striations do you honestly see 15lbs of what you guys think is water weight and not cutting?

I mean you guys have seen what 15lbs looks like in terms of muscle right?

[Doctor_Tenma]

By this reply I can tell you don't know **** about cutting weight or boxing for that manner.

What was inaccurate about that statement? LOL

[ИATAS]

True i forgot the ODLH fight. The fight night pics are useless. Half the 130 pounders would make 130 and come in at 145+ on the night....did this make them effective as a WW?? Hell no!!! they tell us nothing at all.

but I thought Oscar was a zombie and weight drained though? so wouldn't a lot of smaller guys have faired well against that version of oscar though?

Pac just beat oscar with foot movement and handspeed and that was it. Remember after the fight oscar was saying pac didn't even hit hard and was hoping he would knock him out and put him out of his misery.

so was pac just a huge welterweight beast that night or was oscar a weight drained zombie?

[Mr.0pal]

But you lose speed with added bulk, yes or no? How many athletes you know add muscle and increase stamina?

Adding 10 lbs in 6 months would not happen with a man as small as Manny and with the cardio that he, as a boxer, does. 45 minutes of cardio alone is catabolic. He trains for hours in camp.

[Khalid X]

actually he went from 129 to 145 in 9 months not two years

and watch that guy with the fight night weight pics is going to come in

3




2






....

But why are people acting like this have never been done before? Not saying you specifically, rather this is my speaking in general.

I mean B-hop went up 14/15lbs in 6 months after losing to Taylor and Knocked off the #1LHW Antonio Tarver.

There are countless examples of this throughout the history of the sport, but let's just ignore them because we wanna prove Manny is juicing (again not aimed at you but to those who use Manny's weight gain as proof of him using PEDs).

[Puntoyhauf]

same thread topics over and over and over and over again. PEDS DON'T WIN FIGHTS! GIVE BRIAN SUTHERLAND ALL THE PEDS IN THE WORLD... LET'S SEE IF HE CAN WIN EVEN AND INTERIM TITLE.

Mosley barely won against Dela Hoya in their rematch even when he's on PEDS.

mind you...Pac's walking around weight after Pac-Morales II was 155lbs.

[Eaner0919]

But why are people acting like this have never been done before? Not saying you specifically, rather this is my speaking in general.

I mean B-hop went up 14/15lbs in 6 months after losing to Taylor and Knocked off the #1LHW Antonio Tarver.

There are countless examples of this throughout the history of the sport, but let's just ignore them because we wanna prove Manny is juicing (again not aimed at you but to those who use Manny's weight gain as proof of him using PEDs).

I think in the case of Hopkins 1. people have speculated that he might have used something to move up and 2. he is a much larger framed man than Manny

[Gutz]

But you lose speed with added bulk, yes or no? How many athletes you know add muscle and increase stamina?

alot of olympic athletes were able to add muscle and keep their stamina.

And if your comparing the BULK that Pac added isnt very much to lose that much speed.