Why a lot of people think Pac is juicing? Look inside ...

[brick wall]

From Diaz to De La Hoya. That six month leap tells the story.

another one of your bull****s. pac has done more than that in the lower weights...he moved up from 112 to 122 and took a fight at 2-weeks notice and ko'ed the champion ledwaba. so what does that tell you? has he been taking peds since his lower weight days? maybe it's time for you to revise your ****** peds theory about pac.

[DoktorSleepless]

From Diaz to De La Hoya. That six month leap tells the story.

He gained 1 and a half pounds from Diaz to Hoya. What story does it tell exactly?

[IMDAZED]

He gained 1 and a half pounds from Diaz to Hoya.

I'm not referring to weight. But please, keep talking.

[IMDAZED]

another one of your bull****s. pac has done more than that in the lower weights...he moved up from 112 to 122 and took a fight at 2-weeks notice and ko'ed the champion ledwaba. so what does that tell you? has he been taking peds since his lower weight days? maybe it's time for you to revise your ****** peds theory about pac.

5th grade, perhaps?

[Doctor_Tenma]

He refused a drug test which does seem really su****ious. If there's any boxer in the sport that epitomizes corruption and utter greed its pacquiao and his team. Earning millions off mythical "8th" division belts, draining champions, ducking drug tests, selling so called "competitive" fights to the gullible less informed public and the list goes on

Not one of his supporters can give a sound or logical explanation why pacquiao is refusing a drug test. Why did he refuse it the first time but wants a seven day cutoff now? why not go all the way? we've seen him prance and lie and run through every excuses on the book and quite frankly, it does display guilt and people do have the right to suspect his actions.

If he can spar bigger men, spar-middle weights and risk getting his ribs broken, why cant he clean up his name and just take the drug test. Really pathetic.

The thing is, if Pacquiao would have straight up said NO, I would have continued to be skeptical of him but I wouldn't be pointing the finger at him; like I've been doing. It's the lame excuse he came out with; insanely ****** excuses him and his team came out with...


In the bold, so true man, SO TRUE.

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IMO Pacquiao looks a lot "softer" than I'm used to seeing him look at 126, 130 and 135.

In the lower weight classes he had better (muscle) definition than he does now.

Yup I agree with you he looks a lot softer at welter and that might have something to do with the 7000 calories he has to eat just to maintain his weight.

I would of thought all these supposed PED's he's taking would help him with that but apperently he's taking the ones that make you look softer and do nothing to help you gain weight.

[King Ju-Ju]

5th grade, perhaps?

see why i said u are a mayweather fan earlier???? either that or u just a pacquiao hater. which 1 is it?

[DoktorSleepless]

I'm not referring to weight. But please, keep talking.

Then what are you referring to? Do tell. We're not mind readers.

[PacquiaoATG]

Just come upon this article and it's a very interesting read.

Pacquiao is one of the highest weight climbers in the history of the sport, what seperates him from the rest of the weight climbers is that Pacquiao is shorter than the others and Pacquiao remained just as muscular and ripped as he climbed while the others looked softer and even fat.

I got a list of the highest weight climbers and what % weight they put on from the time their bodies matured, a typical male body stops growing at age 21, this means your skeletal frame stops growing in height and your body is pretty much filled out by that age.

M.A.Barrera and E.Morales matured at 122lbs, they had success up to 130lbs,a 6% weight gain for both, neither looked ripped at 130lbs…

J.M.Marquez matured at 126 lbs, had success up to 135 lbs, a 7% weight gain, still looked pretty fit at 135lbs…

Julio C.Chavez matured at 130 lbs, had success up to 140 lbs, an 8% weight gain, didn’t look ripped at 140lbs…

Floyd Mayweather matured at 130lbs, had succes up to 150lbs vs DLH, a 15% weight gain, still looked fit at 150 but not ripped…

Pernell Whittaker matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, actually had a roll of fat around his waist for his 1 fight at 154lbs…

Roberto Duran matured at 135 lbs, had success up to 157lbs against I.Barkley, a 16% weight gain, was pudgy and even fat at this weight, even looked soft at 154lbs…

O.DeLaHoya matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, looked normal, not ripped at 154lbs…

S.R.Leonard matured at 147lbs, had success up to 165lbs vs D.Lalonde, a 12% weight gain, looked fit at 165…

Thomas hearns, matured at 147lbs, had success as high as 174lbs vs V.Hill, an 18% weight gain, looked fit but not ripped at 174lbs…

Roy Jones Jr matured at 160lbs, had success up to 193lbs vs J.Ruiz, a 21% weight gain, looked ripped at 193lbs…

and finally there’s Manny Pacquiao, matured at 122lbs when he was 21yrs old, and has had success up to 144lbs vs M.Cotto, an 18% weight gain, looked ripped at 144lbs.

The top % weight gainers are in order R.Jones 21%, T.Hearns 18%, M.Pacquiao 18%, R.Duran 16%, F.Mayweather 15%, O.DeLaHoya 14%, P.Whittaker 14%…..Of these 7 names Duran and Whittaker looked fat at their highest weight, ONLY Jones and Pacquiao STILL looked ripped at their highest weight, and remember that Jones was later revealed to have used steroids in his career.

Of these 7 names Hearns was the tallest, at 6 foot 1 it’s a lot easier to put on weight, compared to Pacquiao who is the shortest of the 7 at 5 foot 6, yet Hearns and Pacquiao both put on 18% weight gains each.This is why knowledgeable people are suspecting Pacquiao of juicing, something is just not right here, a man should not gain 18% weight and stay ripped on boxing training while retaining all his speed and gaining power.

There’s an old saying in boxing that goes ”A great big man will beat a great small man always”, Pac has broken this golden rule of boxing by losing at the lighter weights to M.Singsurat, E.Morales and (IMO)J.M.Marquez twice, these were natural 112,122 and 126lbers, and now suddenly Pac is demolishing natural 135-140lbers D.Diaz, DLH, R.Hatton and M.Cotto with ease.

IMO Pac is on the juice, but due to UFC competition boxing needs the excitement and huge PPV buys right now, the truth will come out in the future when it doesn’t matter anymore.

http://ringtalk.com/manny-pacquiao-steroids-3-4

Please Hater help your self. Here is the Pacquiao weight.

Please help your self

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=427884

[pistol whip]

5th grade, perhaps?

You do know sarcastic comments really don't win the argument for you. They may make you fell better but yeah your points are still all flawed!