Who you got- Adamek vs Haye

[Walt Liquor]

adamek is hype, dont fall into the bole

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[FloydTBE]

Arreola has a high KO% as well but I get your point. I think Arreola has fast hands but his footwork sucks, Diva has better footwork. He is much quicker and less predictable than Arreola that's for sure, but his chin and stamina is much worse, you have to admit that. I am not saying that Adamek would be the favorite and I could see a Diva TKO but this fight would be a very interesting fight and close, I am going with Adamek for the formetioned reasons.

Haye is a far better boxer than arreola, its a no contest. All arreola did against vitali is get on his rail tracks n plough forward with very limited movement and defense. HAye is very different, he has underated defense, hes very fast, both hand and footspeed. Haye would have no problems in knocking out adamek

[S.G.]

I think Adamek would outbox him and knock him out with a nice, short counter.

[Walt Liquor]

Haye is a far better boxer than arreola, its a no contest. All arreola did against vitali is get on his rail tracks n plough forward with very limited movement and defense. HAye is very different, he has underated defense, hes very fast, both hand and footspeed. Haye would have no problems in knocking out adamek

haye's not a better boxer than adamek though.

haye leaves himself open quite a bit and ruiz, barret, and valuev aren't the kid of guys who can pull the trigger anymore- or ever could really

[WladIsTheChamp]

Haye is a far better boxer than arreola, its a no contest. All arreola did against vitali is get on his rail tracks n plough forward with very limited movement and defense. HAye is very different, he has underated defense, hes very fast, both hand and footspeed. Haye would have no problems in knocking out adamek

I am not so sure about that. Arreola has a lot of skill, he took off several years from boxing, trained for a couple of months and then won the Golden Gloves just like that, plus look at how fat he is yet he still manages to do well. Diva has a ton of athletic ability plus he is in shape but he doesn't look like he is a very gifted boxer, he is extremly sloppy and there are a lot of flaws in his boxing, he relies mostly on reflexes, powers, and speed. That's why he wants to finish his career early, he knows that won't carry him through the mid-30s once things like that start to fade.

[The Surgeon]

I am not so sure about that. Arreola has a lot of skill, he took off several years from boxing, trained for a couple of months and then won the Golden Gloves just like that, plus look at how fat he is yet he still manages to do well. Diva has a ton of athletic ability plus he is in shape but he doesn't look like he is a very gifted boxer, he is extremly sloppy and there are a lot of flaws in his boxing, he relies mostly on reflexes, powers, and speed. That's why he wants to finish his career early, he knows that won't carry him through the mid-30s once things like that start to fade.

Haye was a top Amature and has good movement and excellet punch variety, he has won the CW and HW titles both on forign soil within 24 fights, that takes some talent too go with the reflexes and power.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Haye was a top Amature and has good movement and excellet punch variety, he has won the CW and HW titles both on forign soil within 24 fights, that takes some talent too go with the reflexes and power.

He was a top amateur for sure but technically he is much sloppier than Adamek, which Adamek will exploit. The question is, is Diva so much faster than Adamek that Adamek will not catch Diva, I don't think so. Diva has been caught by Ruiz easily recently, he lost a bit of speed since moving to HW and his work rate is not as good as Adamek's.

[paulf]

As much as I like Adamek, I got to go with Haye. A slow old caveman like Michael Grant almost knocked Adamek out in the 12th last year. Another round and it would have been all over for Tomasz.

I am more than impressed with his courage and the work he's put in to become a heavyweight contender, but I just don't see how Haye's speed, sharpness, and power wouldn't lead to him knocking Tomasz out.

He needs a more fights at HW and needs to grow stronger. And he better forget fighting one of the Klitschkos. I mean, I'd watch it, but he isn't ready. At least not yet.

[WladIsTheChamp]

As much as I like Adamek, I got to go with Haye. A slow old caveman like Michael Grant almost knocked Adamek out in the 12th last year. Another round and it would have been all over for Tomasz.

I am more than impressed with his courage and the work he's put in to become a heavyweight contender, but I just don't see how Haye's speed, sharpness, and power wouldn't lead to him knocked Tomasz out.

And he better forget fighting one of the Klitschkos. I mean, I'd watch it, but he isn't ready. At least not yet.

As opposed to an actual old caveman with two bums knees and shoulder, probably in his last fight, making Diva run from him the entire 12 rounds. Diva broke the record that night - least amount of punches thrown by a HW in a 12 round championship fight.

[The Surgeon]

He was a top amateur for sure but technically he is much sloppier than Adamek, which Adamek will exploit. The question is, is Diva so much faster than Adamek that Adamek will not catch Diva, I don't think so. Diva has been caught by Ruiz easily recently, he lost a bit of speed since moving to HW and his work rate is not as good as Adamek's.

I dont think he's sloppy, i know Adamek is stiffer and more robotic tho.

Haye's not Willy Pep but Adamek is seriously gonna have to think before letting shots go because when your in there with a puncher of David Hayes calliber he can end your dreams with one shot. Its bad practice in boxing to chase a puncher usually but thats what Haye often makes u do, he is slick and uses good movement but make no mistake he's the Dangerman in there the one with the power