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  • #81
    Originally posted by apokalips View Post
    This whole "cost of it and availabity to all levels" thing reminds me of the argument for technology in football over here in europe.

    It's impossible to have the same standards for amateur or lower pro levels as at a world class level in any sport...I don't think thats a valid argument. In lower levels of American Football, Cricket, etc I highly doubt they have video replays and reviews and such to change decisions yet they continue to use it at elite level.

    I think better drug testing is needed especially at world title level, as that is where I would expect more people to attempt to cheat due to the amount that is riding on the outcomes.

    We need better officiating and drug testing in Boxing that is a definite and why not start with Championship bouts? The world title fights get better judges and refs....The amount of money some of these fighters are getting paid is madness, how can fans complain about the cost of it? It doesn't have anything to do with us? and the amount of money paid in sanctioning fees, etc the money should be there in the sport to pay for better drug testing.

    To make this sport better, we should always look to be on the cutting edge, not playing catch-up.
    where your argument fails is that all pro-boxing is pro-boxing. there's no such thing as an "elite" level or "world class" level. In other words there is no 1st class and 2nd class in pro-boxing. using european football and cricket as an analogy doesn't work.

    world title fights don't get better judges or refs. otherwise hopkins wouldn't get robbed in canada and malignaggi wouldn't get robbed in texas. the best refs judges big fights as well as obscure non-televised bouts.

    everyone agrees that there should be better testing. the question you have to answer is where is the money going to come from and will it cover all of boxing, as there is no such thing as a 1st class and 2nd class in pro-boxing except in the minds and imaginations of boxing fans. if there is better testing, a club fighter who is a pro-boxer should have the same confidence as an international boxing star that their opponent is not using PEDs, otherwise the circumstances are not equal nor fair.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Uhh no. The biggest fight didn't happen because one fighter didn't want to be subjected to random drug testing. Now people want to make up their own reasons. Christ.
      Thats ur opinion. I think both are to blame.

      If someone insulted me and called me a cheat, the last thing i would do is give in to their demands.

      But i think Pac should for the good of the sport and to just man-up.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by The Noose View Post
        Thats ur opinion. I think both are to blame.

        If someone insulted me and called me a cheat, the last thing i would do is give in to their demands.

        But i think Pac should for the good of the sport and to just man-up.
        Agreed 100%

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        • #84
          lets clean up the sport of boxing, nothing wrong with wanting that at all

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          • #85
            Originally posted by The Noose View Post
            Thats ur opinion. I think both are to blame.

            If someone insulted me and called me a cheat, the last thing i would do is give in to their demands.

            But i think Pac should for the good of the sport and to just man-up.
            Yeah, that's why I say it's your reason, not Pac's. Because he got "accused" and wanted to negotiate and even agreed. Then started lying. Try again.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Yeah, that's why I say it's your reason, not Pac's. Because he got "accused" and wanted to negotiate and even agreed. Then started lying. Try again.
              Agreed to what??

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              • #87
                Originally posted by flat1985 View Post
                Agreed to what??
                Agreed to random testing.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by El Más Mejor View Post
                  The only way Mayweather would have used that excuse to get out of a fight is if he knew beforehand that Pacquiao was not going to accept. To do that you have to be a mind reader. I don't think Mayweather can read minds.
                  it doesn't require that wifebeater needs telepathy to use OST as an excuse to duck the fight.

                  As you can see from team wifebeater comments, the wifebeater clan will continue to put hurdles and obstacles in the way to kill the fight before either boxer can get in the ring. just look at wifebeater's recent demands about the fight. wifebeater has recently come up with a new demand where either team get to send spies to the other camp.

                  The point is that no matter what pac agrees to, the wifebeater clan will come up with some other reason why the fight can't happen.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                    Blaming cost is just another way of defending non-testing, We have to start from somewhere.
                    lols... figuring out where the money is going to come from is the beginning of process.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Agreed to random testing.
                      I thought it was a 7 day cut off?

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