Why cant boxing fans simply want better drug testing..

[flat1985]

Uhh...no kidding?



pathetic.

So what the **** is your argument?

[IMDAZED]

whatever u say man, imo he used it 2 get out the fight. simple! dont agree, oh well. doesnt bother me 1 bit. could careless bout both fighters in reality. both entertain me because i love boxing but im done talkng and debating about these guys.

Yeah, I bet.

Basically, he used it to get out the fight because...because you have no logical reason. So just because. No worries, BB. At least you're honest with it.

[IMDAZED]

So what the **** is your argument?

That in order for Floyd to use it to get out of the fight, he'd have to know that Manny would...

1. Agree

2. Then change his mind

3. Change it again

4. Change it for a third time

[chav]

I hear a lot about how much it costs for OST, but i've actually no idea how much it does cost.

Can anyone tell me what it costs to have OST done over a 8/12 week period? Either per test, or however the cost is measured.

to close off - i personally struggle to accept the cost angle when you are talking fights where there is enough purse money. E.G SSM who fights Manny is going to be taking $5 - 10M for 1 fight, surely cost isn't an issue at this level???

There is ALWAYS a solution to a problem, it's just do you WANT to find a solution or do you want to hide behind the complications and use that for not finding a solution.

[Dagomba]

whatever u say man, imo he used it 2 get out the fight. simple! dont agree, oh well. doesnt bother me 1 bit. could careless bout both fighters in reality. both entertain me because i love boxing but im done talkng and debating about these guys.

You should, and everyone who makes baseless assumptions should really stop.

The only way Mayweather would have used that excuse to get out of a fight is if he knew beforehand that Pacquiao was not going to accept. To do that you have to be a mind reader. I don't think Mayweather can read minds.

[IMDAZED]

I hear a lot about how much it costs for OST, but i've actually no idea how much it does cost.

Can anyone tell me what it costs to have OST done over a 8/12 week period? Either per test, or however the cost is measured.

to close off - i personally struggle to accept the cost angle when you are talking fights where there is enough purse money. E.G SSM who fights Manny is going to be taking $5 - 10M for 1 fight, surely cost isn't an issue at this level???

There is ALWAYS a solution to a problem, it's just do you WANT to find a solution or do you want to hide behind the complications and use that for not finding a solution.

The issue isn't cost so much as it is who is shelling out.

[apokalips]

This whole "cost of it and availabity to all levels" thing reminds me of the argument for technology in football over here in europe.

It's impossible to have the same standards for amateur or lower pro levels as at a world class level in any sport...I don't think thats a valid argument. In lower levels of American Football, Cricket, etc I highly doubt they have video replays and reviews and such to change decisions yet they continue to use it at elite level.

I think better drug testing is needed especially at world title level, as that is where I would expect more people to attempt to cheat due to the amount that is riding on the outcomes.

We need better officiating and drug testing in Boxing that is a definite and why not start with Championship bouts? The world title fights get better judges and refs....The amount of money some of these fighters are getting paid is madness, how can fans complain about the cost of it? It doesn't have anything to do with us? and the amount of money paid in sanctioning fees, etc the money should be there in the sport to pay for better drug testing.

To make this sport better, we should always look to be on the cutting edge, not playing catch-up.

[The Noose]

without being a "*****" or "hater" ?

Is it impossible for a boxing fan to simply think testing should be stricter?

Why cant we simply want our "heroes", "idols", or favorite boxers to be equal to their opponent?
(without siding or downing any boxer)


PLEASE DO NOT MENTION PAC IN THIS THREAD

Without siding or downing any boxer? Thats how this whole thing began. By calling (u know who) a drugs cheat.

Stricter drug tests is all good.

But the biggest fight of the centurt didnt happen because one fighter called another fighter a cheat (or his daddy suggested he was a cheat).

It was never about 'cleaning up the sport'. It was about gaining the upper hand and both fighters acting like *******s.

[Ray*]

Blaming cost is just another way of defending non-testing, We have to start from somewhere.

[IMDAZED]

Without siding or downing any boxer? Thats how this whole thing began. By calling (u know who) a drugs cheat.

Stricter drug tests is all good.

But the biggest fight of the centurt didnt happen because one fighter called another fighter a cheat (or his daddy suggested he was a cheat).

It was never about 'cleaning up the sport'. It was about gaining the upper hand and both fighters acting like *******s.

Uhh no. The biggest fight didn't happen because one fighter didn't want to be subjected to random drug testing. Now people want to make up their own reasons. Christ.