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  • #21
    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    nobody is against better drug testing, but it has to be available to all boxers and it has to be affordable.
    Again the point is missed but I will play along.

    When I want testing why am I a *****?

    When we believe there are users in the sport, Why am I a hater?
    The same guys that say "no one is against stricter testing is the same guys who call fans "*****s" when they want the testing?

    I heard no such name calling when Shane Mosley agreed to the test. That means most agreed it was OK for one but not another.
    But the name calling came right back for "So and so".

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    • #22
      Originally posted by IdNod4u2 View Post
      Again the point is missed but I will play along.

      When I want testing why am I a *****?

      When we believe there are users in the sport, Why am I a hater?
      The same guys that say "no one is against stricter testing is the same guys who call fans "*****s" when they want the testing?

      I heard no such name calling when Shane Mosley agreed to the test. That means most agreed it was OK for one but not another.
      But the name calling came right back for "So and so".
      that's cause most (if not all) those who are on the OST bandwagon started to want better testing when floyd used it as an excuse not to fight.

      where were you guys when the likes of shane mosley were able to test negative and was on PED's?

      funny there was no outcry from you guys then but when someone who has never tested positive before refused a test that no one else has to take, then he is on drugs.

      no one is against better testing. but you guys are for it because it is floyd's excuse that would make him high and mighty, as if he's saving the sport and would make you guys convince yourselves that manny is only great because he cheats.

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      • #23
        I want better testing... but not if it gets in the way of the biggest fight in the last 10 years.

        It can go to hell if it does.

        I'm a boxing fan first and foremost, so I rather see fights, not drug tests.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Ryannn View Post
          that's cause most (if not all) those who are on the OST bandwagon started to want better testing when floyd used it as an excuse not to fight.

          where were you guys when the likes of shane mosley were able to test negative and was on PED's?

          funny there was no outcry from you guys then but when someone who has never tested positive before refused a test that no one else has to take, then he is on drugs.

          no one is against better testing. but you guys are for it because it is floyd's excuse that would make him high and mighty, as if he's saving the sport and would make you guys convince yourselves that manny is only great because he cheats.
          And there was no outcry of OST when Pascal suspected Bhop Peds usage

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          • #25
            Originally posted by check hook View Post
            That's true....but most people (like me and probably you) didn't know boxing's testing procedures. I just assumed it was the same style as they do in am's for olympics and the like.

            This controversy has highlighted a certain FACT that no one can dispute:


            Professional boxing's PED detection regime is a complete and utter disgrace!
            nobody knows because nobody cares. and even if you knew the commission's testing procedures, how do you know that it is effective or not? you have to have at least a basic knowledge of how these different drug testing works and i believe most of us here lack that knowledge so for some people who are saying that they support this kind of testing eventhough they don't really understand what it's all about is ridiculous and ******.
            the thing is, any improvement in drug testing for pro boxing can not be done overnight. there's a reason why the different state commissions are not implementing blood testing whether it's politically motivated or simply it's not cost effective.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by led View Post
              Let us support it if its under commission's regulation. Also, not all fight can afford this expensive testing.

              Oh btw, why wasnt Pascal asked Bhop (both of them get under this test) when Pascal said Bhop might be under PEDs?
              You know this goes for all of you guys with the "pathetic money excuse"....

              The money excuse is great for the rich promoters, and anyone else connected to boxing that loses by implemented stricter testing. But when a fan of boxing comes in here as if he will lose some money. CMON!!!!

              Were the fans!!
              The promoters will not go broke, the boxers will not go broke, The sanctioning bodies wont either. So stop it! and leave them with the bullcrap excuses.

              If its run like taxes in which the bigger earners give more money....everyone still wins.
              even a bullcrap fight makes more money than you and I in a year so stop feeling bad for these guys...Not to mention its for THEIR own good.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by IdNod4u2 View Post
                Again the point is missed but I will play along.

                When I want testing why am I a *****?
                When we believe there are users in the sport, Why am I a hater?
                The same guys that say "no one is against stricter testing is the same guys who call fans "*****s" when they want the testing?

                I heard no such name calling when Shane Mosley agreed to the test. That means most agreed it was OK for one but not another.
                But the name calling came right back for "So and so".
                ok so one or two posters called you a ***** for supporting better testing and now you're making it an issue to everybody? you're just like those posters...you're an idiot.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by led View Post
                  And there was no outcry of OST when Pascal suspected Bhop Peds usage
                  where the **** were they before floyd sr. accused pac of being on ped's cause he beat the crap out of his "eye talian stallion? "

                  ****ers spend a huge chunk of their life googling "PED-Pacquiao" and still aren't able to find any remote evidence of him being on anything.

                  sad pathetic life these guys have.

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                  • #29
                    LOL. You're all being suckered by this TS. He's just acting serious about these threads of his with the same theme. He's clearly trolling. He's laughing his a$$ off right now.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Ryannn View Post
                      that's cause most (if not all) those who are on the OST bandwagon started to want better testing when floyd used it as an excuse not to fight.

                      where were you guys when the likes of shane mosley were able to test negative and was on PED's?

                      funny there was no outcry from you guys then but when someone who has never tested positive before refused a test that no one else has to take, then he is on drugs.

                      no one is against better testing. but you guys are for it because it is floyd's excuse that would make him high and mighty, as if he's saving the sport and would make you guys convince yourselves that manny is only great because he cheats.
                      All and all same song.

                      Thats like saying, where were all the people making a big stink about sitting in the back of the bus.....
                      No one really said anything until Rosa Parks made an issue out of it.
                      As if to say it was ok before?

                      Many whites hated her for taking a stance. They were still wrong.

                      If Rosa Parks was a lier, cheater, Hoe or whatever.
                      would it had made the movement "not worthy".

                      So who cares who started the outcry for better testing, Its a good thing. So lets not turn our backs on it.

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