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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    i hate how once a boxer gets KTFO he should retire.

    how about get better defense?
    U learn your craft as an ameture...once you reach a certain level in the game its hard to change your style. Its easy to say, oh all he needs is better defense but doing it is different. Once he gets in the ring in the back of his mind hes gonna be thinking , please dont get ko please dont get ko...and hes gonna try and trade and get ko..


    look at khan for example...everytime marcos hit him his legs were shaking and personally the fight couldve been stopped in the tenth round. His post fight interview was about how he didnt get ko, not that he won the fight. Because in his mind he was praying please dont get ko again...fighters are never the same trust me

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
      U learn your craft as an ameture...once you reach a certain level in the game its hard to change your style. Its easy to say, oh all he needs is better defense but doing it is different. Once he gets in the ring in the back of his mind hes gonna be thinking , please dont get ko please dont get ko...and hes gonna try and trade and get ko..


      look at khan for example...everytime marcos hit him his legs were shaking and personally the fight couldve been stopped in the tenth round. His post fight interview was about how he didnt get ko, not that he won the fight. Because in his mind he was praying please dont get ko again...fighters are never the same trust me

      It really depends on what needs to be fixed in their defense. If it's minor or something that can be adjusted easily then I can't see why it can't be done.

      All Williams needed to do is protect his face (keep his right hand high) while throwing that punch. He left himself wide open. If he made that adjustment, maybe it would have been Martinez looking at the canvas because if you look at the tapes, Martinez was just as open as Williams. The difference is that he timed it perfectly and appeared to be quicker at throwing that punch.

      BUT Williams also needs to fix other things. Look at what he does in the Cintron fight. He was just as open after he let go his punch but Cintron couldn't connect.
      Last edited by ADP02; 01-04-2011, 01:16 AM.

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      • #33
        We'll see. I think it was a bad clue that maybe the way Williams fights has finally started to take its effect on his body. Still, Williams is a confident guy and his size and style will still give anyone at 147 or 154 a tough night. The only way I see his career being completely done is if his chin is completely gone, which I don't think it is. He just took a hell of a punch from a middleweight.

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        • #34
          The great Roberto Duran was knocked out in a more brutal fashion by Thomas Hearns...and he came back to flatten Iran Barkley for the Super middlewight title.

          Paul Williams will be just fine.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
            Paul Williams Career was ended in Atlantic City when he fought Sergrio Martinez in their second meeting. Paul took a devasting blow to the dome that sent him head fist, kissing the canvas like he was in love. Fighters who get ko in that fashion are never the same, mentally or physically. Something gets loose in a mans head after getting ko like that. The slightest punch will put Williams on shaky legs. A fighter can probably thump Williams on the head and ko him after that blow he took. Although it sounds funny its a serious Matter. If I was Al Haymon i'd advise Paul to take sometime off from the sport to regroup and rest a while. And above all....STAY AWAY FROM MARTINEZ.

            On a serious note Paul should retire because his brain will never recovcer fully from that blow. If he is ****** enough to come back, it shouldnt be in 2011 IMO....
            I dont think that was the hardest blow in the world, just in a good spot. He'll be back this year, He just cant throw those looping punches. I dont know if he can fix that but if so he could still give Martinez a run for his money.

            Originally posted by Kevin Malone View Post
            According to people I trust more than anonymous interweb posters the KO Paul Williams suffered is less harmful than continuous punishment fighters like Michael Katsidis and Rafael Marquez take.
            Those are definitely two guys I want to walk away from boxing rather than be carried away. now that being said i would love to see PWill come back strong but one more snooze like that and maybe retirement wouldnt be such a bad idea.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
              Paul Williams Career was ended in Atlantic City when he fought Sergrio Martinez in their second meeting. Paul took a devasting blow to the dome that sent him head fist, kissing the canvas like he was in love. Fighters who get ko in that fashion are never the same, mentally or physically. Something gets loose in a mans head after getting ko like that. The slightest punch will put Williams on shaky legs. A fighter can probably thump Williams on the head and ko him after that blow he took. Although it sounds funny its a serious Matter. If I was Al Haymon i'd advise Paul to take sometime off from the sport to regroup and rest a while. And above all....STAY AWAY FROM MARTINEZ.

              On a serious note Paul should retire because his brain will never recovcer fully from that blow. If he is ****** enough to come back, it shouldnt be in 2011 IMO....
              you dont know what you are talking about.

              yes some fighters never recover physicly or mentallky from a nasty KO, but its not something u can just assume. lots of fighters come back better from these kind of things. if u asked me to name one active fighter who would do teh best job of overcoming something like this i would say paul williams, no doubt he will bounce back from this. physicly its really out of his hands, i expect his punch resistance will decline. your taking it way too far though, he might go from one of the greatest chins p4p to just one of teh best in his own division, which still aint bad.

              nothing gets loose in a mans head after getting KOd like that, williams wont get knocked out from a thump on the head and his brain already has recovered from the blow by now. the only thing funny is your ignorance.

              look for williams to become a 4 time world champion in 2011.

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              • #37
                I think Pauls punch resistance has been on the slide for a little while actually but im not gonna write him off just yet, he has alot going for him still and has the mentality needed to come back from such a defeat. Id like to see him tighten up his defences a bit and make better use of his size

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                • #38
                  If Miguel Cotto's still fighting after taking bricks from Margo,Clottey and Pac, why cant P-Will who was hit with only one clean shot instead of 65?

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