Why did Manny skip 14 and ask for 7 days?

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    #31
    Originally posted by AFighter4U
    A better question is why wouldn't floyd accept the 7 days that is obviously shorter than the 14 days he originally offered?

    If 14 days was considered fair then, why isn't it fair now?
    b.c he had already said, test up without cut off, or no fight.

    you *******s are ******

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    • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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      #32
      Originally posted by Tomislav III
      The real reason that I thought that Pacquiao wasn't going for that demand was because it would have made him look weak, it would have weakened his image. Don't forget that he was running for a political office at the time.

      Do you think that the Filipino people would have been impressed by him being pushed around by Floyd Mayweather Jr in negotiations? I wouldn't.

      I wasn't surprised that he chose to wait until after the election to accept all of those things.


      Manny has another life outside of boxing, a life that seems more important to him than boxing. He seemed to want to do anything to get elected. Not bending to the will of Mayweather was probably a part of that.
      But at the same time it made him look like he was hiding something. He could have made himself look so much better by saying "I'll do it, I have nothing to hide". Then if he turned around at beat Mayweather, all the attention would have went to that. The negotiations would have been completely over shadowed by his victory. But I'm sure Pacquiao wasn't that confident in a victory.

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        #33
        none of his team was. even roach stated that after negotiations fell through and pac went on to fight clottey

        roach wanted floyd the most, fresh out of retirement. go look at all the **** he was talking about wanting floyd right out of retirement with no tuneup.themoment floyd knocked therustoff. his got more and more quiet

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        • Rolaz
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          #34
          The problem is everything is blamed on poor Manny!

          The truth is Floyd Mayweather Jr is NOT over and above Boxing Authorities.

          The truth is Pacman has already agreed on this blood testing!

          Is there deference if you have blood testing right after the fight?
          simultaneously with urine test?

          Psychologically the very purpose of this blood testing is to weaken Pacman!

          But somehow he already agreed to have blood testing but unfortunately the Mayweather Camp were so SILENT!

          Only those loyal fans of his, who keep on rehashing the issue.

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          • ADP02
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            #35
            Originally posted by yesir
            b.c he had already said, test up without cut off, or no fight.

            you *******s are ******
            So what.

            You are making it sound like what Floyd says becomes law.... lol!

            Floyd went up to 14 days to supposedly get the fight on. You calling Floyd ****** too for changing his mind? Or is that OK because Floyd is aloud to say and do anything and everything he wants?

            These are called negotiations.

            Nothing is set in stone.

            Manny says 7, Floyd says 2, Manny then says 5, Floyd counters with 3 .... Manny says 4 and its a DEAL .... Floyd responds, lets get it on!

            Was that so hard?

            With Manny saying what he said recently and for Floyd not coming back and responding no way, I'm quite sure this will NOT be a problem if they ever do get back into the negotiations mode.

            It's NOT FLOYD, it's only his fans that seem to be stuck in reverse!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Rolaz
              The problem is everything is blamed on poor Manny!

              The truth is Floyd Mayweather Jr is NOT over and above Boxing Authorities.

              The truth is Pacman has already agreed on this blood testing!

              Is there deference if you have blood testing right after the fight?
              simultaneously with urine test?

              Psychologically the very purpose of this blood testing is to weaken Pacman!

              But somehow he already agreed to have blood testing but unfortunately the Mayweather Camp were so SILENT!

              Only those loyal fans of his, who keep on rehashing the issue.
              how many times yall wana go over this same song and dance. neither is pac and what did he request. 8oz gloves with is 10 for WW. 10 mil per lb. but floyd agreed. so that crushes your little argument

              pac agreed to test then went back on his word. even asking for 14 days, getting it and still ducking. floyd says test without cut offs or no fight and pac still wants 7 days.

              haha, pac is a mental midget i guess. he didnt agree to what they said were, "floyds demands" they asked for 7 days.

              you fools are dumb and full of lies

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              • Pullcounter
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                #37
                if a 14 day cut off was good enough in the first negotiations and an 18 day cut off was good enough for mosley/wifebeater, then a 7 day cut off is more than adequate.

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                • namme
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tomislav III
                  If Mayweather had forced someone like Fritzie Zivcic into taking a blood test, I would be offended by it. You don't seem to get that boxers can sometimes stand for more than just themselves. They can sometimes represent an entire people.


                  But besides that, it wasn't my point. The point is that politics is a fickle thing and it isn't as easy as "oh sure, Mr. Mayweather, I'll take your blood tests" and then life goes on as normal.


                  You don't think that one of his opponents would have called him weak willed if he did it? You don't know.
                  Sometimes people tend to forget that Asians, especially Filipinos, are too sensitive when it comes to their PRIDE.

                  In Asian culture, Honor and Dignity come not so much from success but from the good name they have established. And if this is ruined simply by an accusation that has no basis and proofs, it hurts them. Different reactions usually emerge:

                  One, which is usually the American way of responding: Confront it, headstrong and deal with it...ex. "suck it up, have yourself drug tested if you don't have anything to hide."

                  The other reaction is this: Asians, Filipinos in particular (esp. those who live their lives entirely in the Philippines), are more sensitive in general...they would rather not confront an accusation right away but would rather go first around the bush...before confronting it later on...emotions usually get ahead of many Filipinos rather than deal with it pragmatically. It take sometime for them to settle their emotions. Some of my american friends with whom I happened to work with couldn't understand why three of our best workers in the company opted to resign rather than defend themselves after they were accused of something they didn't do. We lost three good and reliable people that day who never had any records in the past for doing things bad against the company. When they were asked why they chose to resign, they simply told us, they would rather that there record and performance speak for themselves. They said that if the company doesn't believe that, then they would prefer resigning and look for another job. For americans, this seems ridiculous, but for filipinos, it's more about trust, honor and pride.

                  This is the kind of what Pacquiao did actually. He went around the bush at the onset not because he was guilty...but because his emotions/pride got over him first..he went to file instead a case against mayweather for maligning his reputation...he decided to take Clottey instead of giving in to Floyd's demands...all the while he must have been thinking, if I lose simply because I gave in to Mayweather's demand, would his people still vote for him? For many filipinos especially who really are born, brought up and lived entirely in the Philippines, "Giving in to Floyd's demand is like kissing his @$$."

                  I agree that Pacquiao was not thinking not just about boxing then but also about his Pride and his Life outside of Boxing which many posters here seem not to consider.
                  Last edited by namme; 01-03-2011, 02:55 AM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    So what.

                    You are making it sound like what Floyd says becomes law.... lol!

                    Floyd went up to 14 days to supposedly get the fight on. You calling Floyd ****** too for changing his mind? Or is that OK because Floyd is aloud to say and do anything and everything he wants?

                    These are called negotiations.

                    Nothing is set in stone.

                    Manny says 7, Floyd says 2, Manny then says 5, Floyd counters with 3 .... Manny says 4 and its a DEAL .... Floyd responds, lets get it on!

                    Was that so hard?

                    With Manny saying what he said recently and for Floyd not coming back and responding no way, I'm quite sure this will NOT be a problem if they ever do get back into the negotiations mode.

                    It's NOT FLOYD, it's only his fans that seem to be stuck in reverse!
                    haha. *******s talking about negotiating when their god doesnt know the meaning of the word.

                    you fail

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      if a 14 day cut off was good enough in the first negotiations and an 18 day cut off was good enough for mosley/wifebeater, then a 7 day cut off is more than adequate.
                      obviously not b.c pac walked away from 14. said he agreed to floyds no cut off demand but asked for cut offs

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