Who would have won Prime Prince Naseem Vs The Barrera That Beat Him

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  • Chew BackAtacha
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    #61
    Originally posted by studentofthegam
    Now why did you put your ass on that fire like that? Hamed was 27 yrs old when he fought MAB. Past his prime just sounds ******. You got on here and agreed with every point he made. You sound just as silly. Hamed always fought the same, with his hands down and jumping in. Barrera fought the same too. He punked him and roughed him up a little. Thats when you saw Naseem lose faith in his self. What the hell is un-Mexican? The fact that you used the term made it irreversably offensive so dont hide behind "no offense". Lastly, Yall have to be embarrassed to keep talking about ol' Augie. Besides he wasnt the last person to beat Mayweather. Yall must be drinking together.
    i stand by by what i said. we can agree to disagree.

    you must not watch boxing if you dont think a fighter can be past his prime at 27.

    augie did beat mayweather, and he was talented, to have people dismiss him like he was nothing is not only insulting, its immature, and quite frankly shows your dislike of hamed gets in the way of the facts.

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    • studentofthegam
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      #62
      Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha
      i stand by by what i said. we can agree to disagree.

      you must not watch boxing if you dont think a fighter can be past his prime at 27.

      augie did beat mayweather, and he was talented, to have people dismiss him like he was nothing is not only insulting, its immature, and quite frankly shows your dislike of hamed gets in the way of the facts.
      Yeah we have to agree to disagree. I watched Hamed time after time and never understood the hype over his boxing. His ring entrances were unmatched though. People had never seen a guy east of the US with hip hop swag untilhe came along. I thought he was very charismatic and entertaining in and out of the ring but it didnt cloud my judgement of his boxing or lack there of.

      In conclusion, I never said lil Augie didnt beat PBF. I said he wasnt the last. Todorov was and Then Floyd turned pro after that robbery. Keep up.

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      • studentofthegam
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        #63
        And Chew I cant remember the last fighter who was 35-0 with 31 ko's, most of them early mind you, that was past his prime at 27. Now, if you'd said he got lazy or lost interest or even said his trainer was terrible I wouldnt be at you so bad. Dont make excuses for improper preparation because that was his job. The last time I saw him he was 200lbs talkin about a comeback. lol

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          #64
          Originally posted by studentofthegam
          When did a fighters lack of training disqualify an ass whippin? It wouldnt be an acceptable excuse for Mayweather or Pac or Klitsko under any circumstances short of death so Why do you all get to decide he deserves a pass for being irresponsible and lazy. When a person does not execute prior to or during the fight its a fair and square beating with no need for "If".
          what are you talking about? I am just telling you hamed was not at his best, of course we know it was his fault he didnt take his camp seriously enough.

          The fact is the prince was not at his best due to him not having the hunger and motivation to train, he was also too arrogant, thinking he would easily win with 1 punch against barrera

          hamed at his best would have ripped barrera to shreds and i dont care what anyone says, hamed was too quick and his angle work would have left barrera in a mess

          and just to show I aint biased


          Morales would have knocked the prince out within 8 rounds, styles make fights and morales had the perfect speed and footwork to deal with a prime prince

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          • Chew BackAtacha
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            #65
            good response, ill give you credit - but Augie Sanchez was the last person to legit
            defeat Floyd Mayweather. i am aware of floyd getting robbed at the olympics, as well the Castillo fight(s). Ignore the fact that Naz was undefeated, just look at his performances, lacklusture. The head movement was gone. Just like Tyson, Just like Duran, who also had motivation issues the more success came to them. As for MAB, Mexicans like to engage to prove thier machismo, case in point Morales-Pac the 12th round of their first fight. MAB never did this - i dont think its offensive to say this, i have the history of boxing to prove me right. Does this make him a coward - no, just intelligent, he leanred from past mistakes. You did insult Augie, re-read your original message.

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            • qari
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              #66
              The head movement was gone.
              Exactly when naz was younger and fresher it was very hard to land a single power punch on him

              and when he fought barrera he had his head still and was gettin jabbed all night

              and i dont think morales would ko naz,it would probs be the other way round morales was never physically strong buh damn i loved the way he fought

              dude did u see the size on augie biggest featherwight i seen no joke and naz sent him owt on a strecher and finished his career if barrera fought naz on that night naz wud hav murdered him... and yes barrera did outbox naseem by 4rounds buh if barrera exchanged like he did with morales who do you think would have won? he never exchanged with naz cuz he knew naz wud ko him

              and evry has their primes at differrent ages tyson,naz both peaked early, pac-man hopkins peaker late and no1 bring up pacman koes naz at featherweight cuz u knw damn well he wudnt hav naz wud hav koed him easy at featherweight hardest punchin featherweight and dont deny

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                #67
                Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha
                good response, ill give you credit - but Augie Sanchez was the last person to legit
                defeat Floyd Mayweather. i am aware of floyd getting robbed at the olympics, as well the Castillo fight(s). Ignore the fact that Naz was undefeated, just look at his performances, lacklusture. The head movement was gone. Just like Tyson, Just like Duran, who also had motivation issues the more success came to them. As for MAB, Mexicans like to engage to prove thier machismo, case in point Morales-Pac the 12th round of their first fight. MAB never did this - i dont think its offensive to say this, i have the history of boxing to prove me right. Does this make him a coward - no, just intelligent, he leanred from past mistakes. You did insult Augie, re-read your original message.
                Fair enough. I never followed Augie but that display against Hamed was not worldclass stuff. He almost looked sedated. Maybe it was a bad night but that was my only example. That would actually make it worse if the Prince didnt beat the best Augie Sanchez. Either way I appreciate the convo.

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                • qari
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                  #68
                  Fair enough. I never followed Augie but that display against Hamed was not worldclass stuff. He almost looked sedated. Maybe it was a bad night but that was my only example. That would actually make it worse if the Prince didnt beat the best Augie Sanchez. Either way I appreciate the convo.
                  lyk barrera didnt beat the best prince naseem

                  and augie droppd the prince buh look at the way naseem koes should hav been ko of the year that **** was brutal

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                  • studentofthegam
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by qari
                    lyk barrera didnt beat the best prince naseem

                    and augie droppd the prince buh look at the way naseem koes should hav been ko of the year that **** was brutal
                    It was a vicious version of Naseem. Good ko. I just wont give him a pass on the Barrera fight no matter what you say homie. I agree to disagree.

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                    • Bram
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                      #70
                      I can't imagine that a 27 year old Hamed was that much depleted by the time he fought Barrera that it really affected the fight's outcome. If that's the case, I could also argue that the 27 year old Barrera that fought Hamed and had more than 50 pro fights behind him including having been knocked loopy by Junior Jones and going to war with Erik Morales was also not at his best.

                      I'd have Barrera by decision whenever they might've fought.

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