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  • #31
    Originally posted by Check View Post
    I like what HBO did and should keep blocking Arum from giving us his ****ty Top Rank PPV's. Cotto V Mayorga should not be happening at this point in Miguels career. Sorry, the fight might be fun to watch but it still is a disgrace for Bob to put one of the most popular fighters in the world in with a bum. Arum may of been good for the sport 30 years ago but now he is one of the worst people in it.
    Cotto-Mayorga would be a great fight for regular HBO.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by borikua View Post
      Cotto-Mayorga would be a great fight for regular HBO.
      Yeah, I think it would do fine ratings and even the fight will be good, but honestly what is the point? By the time they fight Miguel will virtually have had the Foreman fight like 10 months before and the Pac fight nearly 16 months before that. I think it is time Miguel gets in there with one of the big dogs for one last major run. Arum is ****ing everything up imo and despite doing a great job building Miguel, he is doing a poor job rebuilding him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Check View Post
        Yeah, I think it would do fine ratings and even the fight will be good, but honestly what is the point? By the time they fight Miguel will virtually have had the Foreman fight like 10 months before and the Pac fight nearly 16 months before that. I think it is time Miguel gets in there with one of the big dogs for one last major run. Arum is ****ing everything up imo and despite doing a great job building Miguel, he is doing a poor job rebuilding him.
        So you think that Arum should have put Miguel against someone more dangerous and put the Margarito rematch in jeopardy? Come on.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by borikua View Post
          So you think that Arum should have put Miguel against someone more dangerous and put the Margarito rematch in jeopardy? Come on.
          More dangerous than Mayorga, without a doubt. Mayorga hasn't done anything in ages, he isn't a threat in this fight. Miguel had surgery and I understand that takes time but his warmup was against Foreman he doesn't need another tune up even with the surgery. Even if they had put him in rougher waters and he lost the Margarito PPV could still go on, simply because of the out of the ring stuff and how great the first fight was.

          One of the reasons Miguel is my favorite fighter is he has never shied away from a challenge and always wanted the big fights and this fight is exactly the opposite. I know Arum calls the shots and it isn't up to him but I simply can't defend this fight.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by borikua View Post
            So you think that Arum should have put Miguel against someone more dangerous and put the Margarito rematch in jeopardy? Come on.
            The majority wanted Cotto and Marg for November 2010 but instead Bob Arum put Margarito up against Pac.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
              I actually praise HBO for not buying the bullshit ass fight with Mayorga.

              But to be fair, Cotto deserves to be on HBO way more than Berto. Berto gets away with way too much bullshit.
              Co-sign here,but I gotta say 1 thing,If I gotta choice of Dzinziruk-Martinez on network hbo or Cotto-Mayorga for 55+,I'm going with Martinez all day,every day!!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Check View Post
                More dangerous than Mayorga, without a doubt. Mayorga hasn't done anything in ages, he isn't a threat in this fight. Miguel had surgery and I understand that takes time but his warmup was against Foreman he doesn't need another tune up even with the surgery. Even if they had put him in rougher waters and he lost the Margarito PPV could still go on, simply because of the out of the ring stuff and how great the first fight was.

                One of the reasons Miguel is my favorite fighter is he has never shied away from a challenge and always wanted the big fights and this fight is exactly the opposite. I know Arum calls the shots and it isn't up to him but I simply can't defend this fight.
                I agree with this. I have wanted to see Cotto fight Berto for some time now, so I'm a bit pissed off right now that they could make that fight but instead choose this waste of everyone's time which HBO won't even pick up(and rightfully so).

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                • #38
                  Uncle Bob don't care about boxing. He will do a bad card with a so so main event and tries to sell it like it is the best fight ever happening. HBO is a savy matchmaker and with the money they put up they can be selective in what fights they want.

                  It is business and they won't keep buying into Arum's half baked products, especially when he is keeping everything in house to benefit even more. A Cotto/Martinez fight will sell more than anything else offered for those two fighters this moment

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by borikua View Post
                    Nope, HBO didn't gave them a date in March. They have them reserved for Sergio and Canelo.
                    If bob was smart he would pick another date. **** he already tike golden boys may day for PAC.

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                    • #40
                      Yall need to realize even though Cotto is a battle tested vet he hasn't had a lot of time work with E Steward and really rest and recharge hiself from the Margarito, Manny and Clottey fights. Of course Arum is always pulling some bull**** but Cotto fighting Mayorga is good because he not that much different than Margarito. I can see why HBO didn't pick up the fight but can't understand why Arum next move was PPV. Hell he could have tried showtime, Fox sports, ESPN or Versus before going the PPV route.

                      This comment has nothing to do with Cotto I like the dude but I hope the PPV bombs terribly only because Arum needs to stop acting like a b!tch.

                      I'm of the general belief fighters want to fight but 95+% of the time it the managers and promoters who mess things up because of what they want.

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