rewatched floyd-shane last night..arum should be shot

[ronniejunior]

in all fairness shane always did the jiggly...he's just not as fast and mobile with it these days.....

[johncods]

ain't no rumor.

he was overtrained.

he went through training camp to fight berto earlier in the year.

when that got cancelled and floyd fight got made , he only had a week or two before starting his 2nd training camp.

the guy had 2 training camps before the fight.

Agree he definitely overtrained. 2 successive hard training camps will burn any fighter out.

[Anti~Jalandoni]

Simple: Floyd was just better than Shane, No more.

[Gino Ros]

I don’t disagree with you Larry, but I wonder how much of a combination of things played a factor those being:


- Inactivity for almost 2 years before fighting Floyd

- The obvious age difference, (father time creeps up in the most inconvenient of times B-Hop the exception)

- Rumored over-training, I read somewhere that even on vacation from training somewhere in South America he was still sparring in local gyms


It’s just a few things I felt worth taking in to account.

i HAVE TO DIASAGREE ON THE OVERTRAINING.

Shane was in early sparring for a Jan 29th fight. The fight was called off in mid-Jan and he tapered down. He restarted training in March

For a guy like Shane who is always in shape, and an experienced trainer like Naazim who is already familiar with Shane, I just don't see the problem.

Respectfully speaking, I trust Naazim's opinion on this more than yours.

[intoccabile]

Shane looked horrible man..i thought it was just floyd looking great but shane couldnt pull the trigger to save his life after the 2nd round..whats all that jittering about??

Shane has ALWAYS been jittery. You guys are just noticing it now? I stated that about shane TWO YEARS AGO on this very forum when people were bringing up Mosley/Clottey possibilities.

Shane ALWAYS does that jitter ****, it's how he creates openings. Pascal tried doing it with Hopkins to no prevail. That's just shanes style. If he doesnt see anything he can hit, he just plays 52 Blocks pretty much. Floyd being the defensive guru he is just made it more noticeable.

[Mr. Fantastic]

he should be ashamed for making this fight..mannys gonna beat the dog **** out of shane ....floyd beat shane up but he doesnt put punches together like manny does..shanes going to the hospital..HE SIMPLY CANT PULL THE TRIGGER ANYMORE..all that damn jittering and has me worried bout his health..he has no jab to stop manny from rushing in..this is gonna be brutal..he was breathing heavy against floyd and floyd was boxing him..mannys gonna assault him and give him no room to breath...**** YOU ARUM **** YOU

You shouldn't blame it on Arum completely. Pac and his team are just as guilty.

This is the **** that really disgusts me, they just want to blame the promoter. Pac picked Mosley!

[el rey]

I don’t disagree with you Larry, but I wonder how much of a combination of things played a factor those being:

- Inactivity for almost 2 years before fighting Floyd

- The obvious age difference, (father time creeps up in the most inconvenient of times B-Hop the exception)

- Rumored over-training, I read somewhere that even on vacation from training somewhere in South America he was still sparring in local gyms


It’s just a few things I felt worth taking in to account.

All those things are true...but this is also true:

- Shane Mosley obliterates then welterweight kingpin Margarito.
- Offers to go down to 143 lbs against Manny when he was looking for a welterweight opponent, he was turned down 3 times
- He opts to fight Mayweather and because of his so called 'overtraining', he was gonna be fit no matter what. Plus he had Brother Naz on his side
- The last time Shane fought somebody with a great jab was in Cotto and DLH II...we all saw what happened there
- Floyd dominates Mosley
- Mosley fights Mora who is a C level fighter.....now Mosley has rested and is even allowing himself some extra lbs by fighting at 154 lbs...no weight drain rumors or overtraining crap.
- he looks like crap and ppl blame it on mora's style when others have beaten mora with somewhat ease....bottom line is that shane was breathing out of his mouth by the 5th round against some guy like mora.
- the bobfather even said himself that mosley looked like crap
-Mosley looked great before he fought Mayweather.....Mosley has looked like crap in his last two fights and now he the "people's champ" will finally accept the challenge
- this fight is a joke and i am glad you acknowledge that. boycott that
sh**t

Like I said, I don’t disagree and if it came down to Manny fighting Shane or taking small hiatus I’d much rather Pac take a well deserved “vacation.”

That said, with so many people screaming a potential hopeful fight against Berto please let’s all keep in mind that Andre already hinted in his last interview with Larry Merchant that he’s too green which for the most part would be a one-sided fight.

- better to fight someone who has looked okay in his last fights than mosley, cant remember the last time Pacquiao has fought someone that had a positive streak goin in their recent fights...vs Barrera I, the last i can remember
- wladdy klitschko fought chambers and was gonna fight chisora. just cause someones green doesnt mean that they aint gonna pose a greater threat than say the veteran shot lion (*ahem* mosley). holmes beat lots of young guys, sure he bulldozed him but its alot better than tyson destroying bums or shot ex champs. hope you see the analogy and logic.
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[Anti~Jalandoni]

All those things are true...but this is also true:

- Shane Mosley obliterates then welterweight kingpin Margarito.
- Offers to go down to 143 lbs against Manny when he was looking for a welterweight opponent, he was turned down 3 times
- He opts to fight Mayweather and because of his so called 'overtraining', he was gonna be fit no matter what. Plus he had Brother Naz on his side
- The last time Shane fought somebody with a great jab was in Cotto and DLH II...we all saw what happened there
- Floyd dominates Mosley
- Mosley fights Mora who is a C level fighter.....now Mosley has rested and is even allowing himself some extra lbs by fighting at 154 lbs...no weight drain rumors or overtraining crap.
- he looks like crap and ppl blame it on mora's style when others have beaten mora with somewhat ease....bottom line is that shane was breathing out of his mouth by the 5th round against some guy like mora.
- the bobfather even said himself that mosley looked like crap
-Mosley looked great before he fought Mayweather.....Mosley has looked like crap in his last two fights and now he the "people's champ" will finally accept the challenge
- this fight is a joke and i am glad you acknowledge that. boycott that
sh**t



- better to fight someone who has looked okay in his last fights than mosley, cant remember the last time Pacquiao has fought someone that had a positive streak goin in their recent fights...vs Barrera I, the last i can remember
- wladdy klitschko fought chambers and was gonna fight chisora. just cause someones green doesnt mean that they aint gonna pose a greater threat than say the veteran shot lion (*ahem* mosley). holmes beat lots of young guys, sure he bulldozed him but its alot better than tyson destroying bums or shot ex champs. hope you see the analogy and logic.
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I didn't read...

[infamous larryx]

You shouldn't blame it on Arum completely. Pac and his team are just as guilty.

This is the **** that really disgusts me, they just want to blame the promoter. Pac picked Mosley!

true..very true

[Walterson]

All those things are true...but this is also true:

- Shane Mosley obliterates then welterweight kingpin Margarito.
- Offers to go down to 143 lbs against Manny when he was looking for a welterweight opponent, he was turned down 3 times
- He opts to fight Mayweather and because of his so called 'overtraining', he was gonna be fit no matter what. Plus he had Brother Naz on his side
- The last time Shane fought somebody with a great jab was in Cotto and DLH II...we all saw what happened there
- Floyd dominates Mosley
- Mosley fights Mora who is a C level fighter.....now Mosley has rested and is even allowing himself some extra lbs by fighting at 154 lbs...no weight drain rumors or overtraining crap.
- he looks like crap and ppl blame it on mora's style when others have beaten mora with somewhat ease....bottom line is that shane was breathing out of his mouth by the 5th round against some guy like mora.
- the bobfather even said himself that mosley looked like crap
-Mosley looked great before he fought Mayweather.....Mosley has looked like crap in his last two fights and now he the "people's champ" will finally accept the challenge
- this fight is a joke and i am glad you acknowledge that. boycott that
sh**t



- better to fight someone who has looked okay in his last fights than mosley, cant remember the last time Pacquiao has fought someone that had a positive streak goin in their recent fights...vs Barrera I, the last i can remember
- wladdy klitschko fought chambers and was gonna fight chisora. just cause someones green doesnt mean that they aint gonna pose a greater threat than say the veteran shot lion (*ahem* mosley). holmes beat lots of young guys, sure he bulldozed him but its alot better than tyson destroying bums or shot ex champs. hope you see the analogy and logic.
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nice post bro